Nature of upcoming VR improvements

[Low Blow]

ED recently announced some upcoming VR improvements. Can it please shed some light on whether these will be limited simply to fps improvements/decreases in stutter or also other quality of life changes such as improved ability to detect aircraft beyond 5 miles, cockpit readability etc. I am aware that some of these things will naturally improve as headset tech develops but my question specifically relates to what ED intends to do on their end to improve the VR experience in DCS.

 

Ta.

[NineLine]

Once we have an idea of what works and what doesn't, we will share a more complete list of fixes, if we share too early, and something doesn't work, parts of the community end up being less than forgiving. So once we are farther along with these improvements, we will share more about them.

 

VR is a very important feature to us, and we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

[Sniper175]

Once we have an idea of what works and what doesn't, we will share a more complete list of fixes, if we share too early, and something doesn't work, parts of the community end up being less than forgiving. So once we are farther along with these improvements, we will share more about them.

 

VR is a very important feature to us, and we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

 

Excellent!

[Low Blow]

we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

 

Thanks that is great to hear. I understand the issue with promising too much too soon.

[Frag]

We also need to remember that ED has to deal with the hardware limitation of today's VR headset. Those are still early in their life and have all kinds of limitations.

 

But can't wait to see DCS again in 10 years from now with all the hardware improvement that will happen. It will be incredible :)

[A2597]

Awesome news, posts from the dev's saying that vr is very important are excellent!

[gorzasty]

Limiatations...yes they are, but DCS is one of the most no prepared titles in the market.... Let them make some changes in the engine. VR is created for similations!

 

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[Headwarp]

VR is a very important feature to us, and we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

 

I think flight simming and racing sims are going to be where VR finds the highest adoption rates.

 

The statement is appreciated. I have to say, at least for me it does help keep things on the side of eagerness rather than impatience with the way you guys have been making clear statements of features that are being worked on even if you can't go into the finer details until said features are near completion.

[pimp]

Once we have an idea of what works and what doesn't, we will share a more complete list of fixes, if we share too early, and something doesn't work, parts of the community end up being less than forgiving. So once we are farther along with these improvements, we will share more about them.

 

VR is a very important feature to us, and we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

What about features that should already be there like the new rain drops? I haven't heard anyone form ED acknowledge this issue or confirm it's being worked on. If there is such a post, my apologies. Please forward it to me.

[falcon_120]

What about features that should already be there like the new rain drops? I haven't heard anyone form ED acknowledge this issue or confirm it's being worked on. If there is such a post, my apologies. Please forward it to me.

They SHOULD? Xd. Have you paid for them? Not only is something in the "nice addition" category, it is also 100th in the list of important things to implement both in the game and also for VR.

 

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[Hippo]

Once we have an idea of what works and what doesn't, we will share a more complete list of fixes, if we share too early, and something doesn't work, parts of the community end up being less than forgiving. So once we are farther along with these improvements, we will share more about them.

 

I'm afraid I find communications from ED sadly lacking at times.

 

What you're saying, in effect, is: We are attempting improvements to VR, but at the moment we don't know if they will work. We don't want to give any specific details because if some items don't work, some people will be upset. Can you not see a bit of a contradiction in your own argument?

 

People are understandably interested in details, why not just state:

We are attempting A, B, C.

Nothing is guaranteed.

 

VR is a very important feature to us, and we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

 

Thanks, good to know.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Hippo

[falcon_120]

People never have enough, if ED say we are working in A people complain why you dont give a list of A.1, A.2 and A.3.

 

If they'd do that the claim would be furious: how come "insert favourite" not made it, is so much important than the rest...

 

People need to calm the f*ck up and wait till its ready.

 

Its only 2 weeks ffs.

 

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Edited January 27, 2019 by falcon_120

[Hippo]

 

how come "insert favourite" not made it

 

This would be a perfectly reasonable question, which would add to the discussion. Unlike your own post.

 

People need to calm the f*ck up ...

 

Perhaps you should take your own advice. And chill.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Hippo

[David OC]

 

People are understandably interested in details, why not just state:

We are attempting A, B, C.

Nothing is guaranteed.

 

Thanks, good to know.

 

A. The splitting of graphics engine and simulation engine

B. Vulkan api full implementation.

C. Ongoing optimization and also any VR optimization that can be achieved utilizing the implementation of Vulkan.

At a guess.;)

 

These are the things we know ED are working on. Not an easy task and I'm sure they will post about it when there is something to show/breakthrough.

[Svsmokey]

People never have enough, if ED say we are working in A people complain why you dont give a list of A.1, A.2 and A.3.

 

If they'd do that the claim would be furious: how come "insert favourite" not made it, is so much important than the rest...

 

People need to calm the f*ck up and wait till its ready.

 

Its only 2 weeks ffs.

 

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:thumbup:

 

The suppositional threads do get tiresome after awhile...

[falcon_120]

This would be a perfectly reasonable question, which would add to the discussion. Unlike your own post.

 

 

 

Perhaps you should take your own advice. And chill.

No its not, ED is not entitled to anything not promised in a product you've bought. Something people keeps forgetting about.

 

I'm good thanks :)

 

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[BoneDust]

Once we have an idea of what works and what doesn't, we will share a more complete list of fixes, if we share too early, and something doesn't work, parts of the community end up being less than forgiving. So once we are farther along with these improvements, we will share more about them.

 

VR is a very important feature to us, and we are working hard to improve the quality and performance.

 

:thumbup:

[etherbattx]

“less than forgiving”, huh?

 

damn it, we just proved that once again didn’t we?

[pimp]

They SHOULD? Xd. Have you paid for them? Not only is something in the "nice addition" category, it is also 100th in the list of important things to implement both in the game and also for VR.

 

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What are you talking about? The new rain drops already exist for 2d monitors so nobody paid for them. For whatever reason, they don't exist for VR and it's been ~6 months since the implementation.

[SharpeXB]

improved ability to detect aircraft beyond 5 miles, cockpit readability

There is nothing ED can do about the low resolution of VR headsets. Only improved technology on that front can help those things.

 

I think flight simming and racing sims are going to be where VR finds the highest adoption rates.

Certainly this type of game can be appealing in VR. The trouble is PC VR gaming beyond such things as racing and flight sims which only make up a small % of the overall market. The future of PC VR gaming is far from certain. The lack of really appealing games and apps puts the technology in a chicken and egg dilemma. While VR improvements would be great I just hope ED puts them in perspective. I’m sure many players don’t want the overall development to suffer chasing a technology that may still fail.

Edited January 27, 2019 by SharpeXB

[Low Blow]

There is nothing ED can do about the low resolution of VR headsets. Only improved technology on that front can help those things.

 

 

 

 

So I take it you didn't the next sentence where I said:

 

"I am aware that some of these things will naturally improve as headset tech develops but my question specifically relates to what ED intends to do on their end to improve the VR experience in DCS".

 

 

So thanks for that.

[Sniper175]

Am i the only one sitting here scratching his head in a warbird pit in vr during the rain and enjoying the sweet raindrops on the canopy? They do work so why say they dont? Now i really wish we would get that sort of effect when flying through areas of moisture aka clouds and or low flybys over water..

[SharpeXB]

So I take it you didn't the next sentence where I said:

 

"I am aware that some of these things will naturally improve as headset tech develops but my question specifically relates to what ED intends to do on their end to improve the VR experience in DCS".

 

 

So thanks for that.

Right. So why even ask in the first place?

[Low Blow]

Right. So why even ask in the first place?

 

Wow someone needs to chill. Here's an idea. If you don't have something constructive to add to a thread then just keep it to yourself. You clearly just enjoy flaming/posting useless words. Read my signature for some life tips there mate. My OP was perfectly reasonable.

[SharpeXB]

My OP was perfectly reasonable.

Sure. Asking ED to make better VR headsets. That’s reasonable.