MAC (Modern Air Combat) Discussion

[AeriaGloria]

Take for example when the PFMs were made. The opportunity to sell each plane individually with PFM probably allowed them add AFM to the missiles. While it may not have made the missiles perfect, it is ground work for the future, like what happened with AIM-7 and next R-27 with CFD and autopilot

[Johnny Dioxin]

...being a VR pilot...

 

Pity View Centering (button 5) does not seem to be mapable as it is quite needed when my headset suffers from gyro drift.

 

Set view centring in the UI Layer section. Does the same as Num5, for VR.

[CTR]

Where is the MAC update?

 

Development Report #2

We had hoped to share more information about Modern Air Combat (MAC) this week, but the information wasn’t quite ready.

 

This was 5 newsletters ago. Did I miss smth? How long does it take to write down 5 lines of what has been done in the last year with some WIP screens? Sometimes its better not to tease people, if you can't deliver. ED please improve your communication strategy! ;-)

Edited November 16, 2019 by CTR
replaced unicode smily

[blitze]

ECM weaknesses?

 

Limitations / Strengths of the specific systems employed by the various aircraft represented in the package given their model and year of service introduction.

 

It's all relative but accurate representation even if we get simplified operation of said systems.:thumbup:

[blitze]

Thanks - I'll give it a go.

[AeriaGloria]

Limitations / Strengths of the specific systems employed by the various aircraft represented in the package given their model and year of service introduction.

 

It's all relative but accurate representation even if we get simplified operation of said systems.:thumbup:

 

I’m excited for MAC, but don’t expect things to change on the ECM front for many years. There is just no reliable documents that point out their strengths and weaknesses. And just doing it by the newest plane wins is probably not the way ED wants to do it. I would be happy if they add something like false target deception, but we’re basically stuck with the noise jamming we have. I think the noise jamming does have different ranges depending on who’s doing the locking

[blitze]

After dipping my toes into the DCS FC world - I too am excited for MAC and what it will bring.

 

Hope there are also a good compliment of training missions for different aircraft to help. Find them quite useful on the Su25 and 27.

 

Also like how well DCS runs on my system with VR and it looks like ED are on a good path with future engine developments. Just have to learn how to use the systems effectively in combat instead of panic and going locked up when my warning systems go off. LOL

[razo+r]

What happened to MAC?

 

I mean, we got a trailer, a few vague news/infos about it and that's it.

 

What happened to it? Any news?

[dburne]

I think they decided to expand quite a bit on the original concept and that has pushed it back.

[Fri13]

I mean, we got a trailer, a few vague news/infos about it and that's it.

 

What happened to it? Any news?

 

It got cancelled.

 

 

 

 

 

Really....

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, really....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, it didn't.....

[Boneski]

What is MAC?

[=Mac=]

Oh. :huh:

 

I thought you meant me.:music_whistling:

 

Nevermind.

[razo+r]

What is MAC?

 

Modern Air Combat (Flaming cliffs 4 for some)

[Mizzy]

DCS 'War Thunder' to many !

 

Mizzy

[Tom Kazansky]

@Boneski: And it is not a module. It is a stand alone software. (Usually a FAQ)

Edited December 7, 2019 by Tom Kazansky

[Dehuman]

They need to update the cockpits and models of a whole lot of aircraft before they can release a AAA game.

[Lenux]

They need to update the cockpits and models of a whole lot of aircraft before they can release a AAA game.

 

Will they update the cockpits ??

[Lenux]

No answer, guys?

What will be the difference between FC 3 and MAC ?

[BIGNEWY]

No answer, guys?

What will be the difference between FC 3 and MAC ?

 

We will share more news when the team are ready.

 

Currently the team are working to complete all features.

 

thanks

Edited January 6, 2020 by BIGNEWY

[Lenux]

Okay, thank you

[Avimimus]

We will share more news when the team are ready.

 

Currently the team are working to complete all features currently.

 

thanks

 

Well, we have some news... and it kindof makes me feel like Flaming Cliffs might be being abandoned... there are basic quality of life features such as being able to change the settings for the cluster bombs (even prior to the mission would be nice) and fixing things broken in updates.

 

I was also somewhat hoping that MAC would pave the way for medium fidelity models for aircraft like the Su-17 or newer aircraft... and it might... but I do wonder if the 'action' focus will lead to a loss of underlying realism... cockpits do not have to be clickable to have sensor modelling... but the 'action' settings for the Ka-50 and other modules have removed many of the system limitations in addition to simplifying controls (and thus made the aircraft overpowered).

[LCUChap2016]

MAC doesn't appear to be marketed toward the bleeding-edge realism the rest of DCS is geared for. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.

[NineLine]

MAC doesn't appear to be marketed toward the bleeding-edge realism the rest of DCS is geared for. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.

 

Nope, it is not, it's for lower learning curves, and quicker to the action, and less about procedures and by the book.

[Cunctator]

It will be interesting to see if MAC is open to third parties. I would think that it could be a very interesting platform for companies like Razbam, which have more 3D modelers than coders and a lot of very hot aircraft on their plate.

[Tom Kazansky]

I wonder if MAC's attraction is planned to be generated from providing aircraft that can't be modelled in DCSW like Typhoon, F-35, F-22, SR-71, Growler, B-52, B-2... and all the modern Russian stuff?