sirrah Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Sorry if my topic title is kinda clickbait-ish.. Not intended as a flame topic, but I'm just curious if I'm missing something here.. As far as I could compare, I have these options: Buy F-16 module on Steam for €54 (module both usable in Steam and standalone) Buy F-16 module from ED website for €57 (module only usable within standalone) Honestly I would rather expect the Steam to be more expensive than ED, as usually buying directly from the creator/supplier is cheaper than from a third party. System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernal78 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Steam takes 30%. If you want to support devs, buy from here. Edited June 15, 2019 by Infernal78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Steam takes 30%. Ah ok, I didn't know that. Still doesn't really explain why buying from Steam is (slightly) cheaper System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernal78 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) yeah. Doesn't make sense. Maybe regional pricing. Edited June 15, 2019 by Infernal78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jopasaps Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 It´s better always buy direct to Eagle Dynamics to support them. Always is better friend [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Vista, Suerte y al TORO !! _____________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fille Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I don't know the exact update schedule for DCS on steam, but i'd guess using the version supported directly by ED rolls out updates/content quicker than steam. As I said, not sure how often and how quick Steam updates DCS, but might also be a thing to consider. Other than that, the above reason(s) obviously;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC_Official Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 buy from steam if you are unsure of the module, and you can get a refund for under 2 hours playtime on it (if you do not like it, or cannot handle the bugs) ED do not offer refunds No more pre-orders Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Indeed I even forgot to mention the refund part. Yet another + for Steam I suppose. I don't know the exact update schedule for DCS on steam, but i'd guess using the version supported directly by ED rolls out updates/content quicker than steam. As I said, not sure how often and how quick Steam updates DCS, but might also be a thing to consider. Other than that, the above reason(s) obviously;) When I still played on Steam (switched over to standalone few months back) I never noticed any delayed updates or releases, so I don't think this is a valid point. The other point, about supporting ED. As much as I love DCS and am thankfull that ED is providing us with all these nice products, I still see them as a company rather than a goal for charity. But each there own of course. Edit: I'll probably get bashed due to my last statement ;) Edited June 15, 2019 by sirrah System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconPlot16 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 regional pricing saves the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Indeed I even forgot to mention the refund part. Yet another + for Steam I suppose. When I still played on Steam (switched over to standalone few months back) I never noticed any delayed updates or releases, so I don't think this is a valid point. The other point, about supporting ED. As much as I love DCS and am thankfull that ED is providing us with all these nice products, I still see them as a company rather than a goal for charity. But each there own of course. Edit: I'll probably get bashed due to my last statement ;) A company you'd like to remain around for a while longer perhaps? Isn't that a good reason to cut out the middle man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadg Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I don't think steam does refunds on DLC, only full games. and modules are DLC. My Rig: AM5 7950X, 32GB DDR5 6000, M2 SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I don't know why anyone would buy from steam when they get everything later than the rest anyway. Sometimes much later. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Panther= Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I like Steam for managing my overall game directory, but it lacks in DCS updates. I'll gladly pay the extra pennies to get the patch sooner over a cheaper but later option. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 I like Steam for managing my overall game directory, but it lacks in DCS updates. I'll gladly pay the extra pennies to get the patch sooner over a cheaper but later option. I never noticed any delays, back when I still played on Steam. I did use the Steam OB version though, maybe those patches are better synchronized with standalone? System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I don't think steam does refunds on DLC, only full games. and modules are DLC. They do refund modules. Tested twice. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon_120 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I never noticed any delays, back when I still played on Steam. I did use the Steam OB version though, maybe those patches are better synchronized with standalone? I was under the impression that patches to steam version come later, though this might not be the case anymore. One thing to consider though is that with the new ED fidelity system eveytime you buy a module you are actually buying a discount for the next one, is that also true for steam? (I'm actually asking :), because i'm not sure of that neither) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kazansky Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Buy F-16 module on Steam for €54 (module both usable in Steam and standalone) Is this correct? I thought it is history to buy on steam and use on SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 You can link your ED account with Steam in your profile, but i dont know the details of how it works. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=229207 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "There's nothing to be gained by second guessing yourself. You can't remake the past, so look ahead... or risk being left behind." Noli Timere Messorem "No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always been there first, and is waiting for it." Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Is this correct? I thought it is history to buy on steam and use on SA. Items bought on Steam can also be used (transferred) on SA. Unfortunately ED purchases are incompatible with Steam. Hence my initial post. I really wondered why people would buy directly from ED and rule out the option to play on a second platform (no offence, just curious). It seems that for most, the main reason would be to directly donate some extra cash to ED System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 There was a time when early access took a while to get to Steam. If that's no longer true, then it would be user convenience driven. I don't like the idea of having to have Steam to play something, but I gut the lure of not having to mess with licenses all the time. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolut Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 With the bonus points i can buy moduls much cheaper direct from ED. And only there i get them for every product you buy except you buy module on sale. At least you are cheaper from ED as long as you have bonuspoints. +1 for ed And to support steam is sensless since steam do not develpoe flightsims. +1 for Ed again ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 I only purchase items that are on sale, as it's never a long wait till the next sale anyways. But I indeed forgot about the bonus point system from ED :thumbup: System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rome57 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Buying from ED I think helps developers more, more goes to ED, but I also see why some would buy from steam with the refunds and having your games in a central manger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cann0nF0dd3r Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 For me its mostly because things hot the ED store faster then Steam. And Steam takes a rather large chunk of the money and I prefer to support ED. Typically I wait for sales which come around a lot more than they used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raisuli Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 What's Steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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