fl0w Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I've been wanting to ask about this more and more for a while now. Ever since we have been getting more information form ED about their upcoming DCS: Supercarrier, I have been wanting to ask more about the Forrestal, Ranger, Saratoga and other ships that we would be getting for free with the Tomcat. I am very happy with the progress that the HB team has been making so far, and bugs have always been a high priority for a module before content, but is there any new information to come before us on this? I am very excited about this and being able to go under a deck, have animated deck crew, and etc. So far what we've seen: (USS Ranger Deck Crew) (USS Forrestal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBird Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Any news on this would be great. I imagine it has to be running in parallel with the Super Carrier DLC so we may not hear anything for a while longer F-14 | F/A-18C | F-16C | AJS-37 | M-2000C | A-10C | UH-1H | F-5E | P-51 | Bf 109 Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Supercarrier YouTube | Steam | Discord: JayBird#4400 i7-7700K | GTX 980 | 32gb RAM | 500gb SSD | 2TB HDD| Track IR | TM Warthog HOTAS | Logitech Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaTzo Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 News on this would be great. F-14B, A-10C,F-18C Lot 20, F-16C, UH-1H, SA342, Spitfire LF Mk IX, F-15C, Mig-29, Supercarrier, Nevada, Persian Gulf i9 9900k 5.0GHz, 32GB RAM, 1080Ti, Rift S, Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind pedals, Dual Monitors 4K & 1080 Every Day, Someone Uses Cute Krispy Snacks [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I wont hold my breath, as I have previously been dissapointed with the Viggen .. when the promised Draken AI and full Campaign were never delivered. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0w Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 I wont hold my breath, as I have previously been dissapointed with the Viggen .. when the promised Draken AI and full Campaign were never delivered. The developers have told us that the campaign for the Viggen is about complete. The Draken AI though, I am quite sad to not see stuff on. But they are busy with the Tomcat, so I do give them the benefit of the doubt like all 3rd parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Hi guys, just got around to answer this. All these things are currently work in progress, the A version, the Forrestal, the Viggen Campaign, the Draken AI, but atm we still prioritize bug fixing. Our apologies that we cannot give any estimates or dates yet. While new content is of course exciting and much awaited, and we understand that, we also want to give you a solid foundation to use it on. I hope that makes sense. :) Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0w Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Bugs come first, we need more squashing than pretty things. Keep up your good work. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Honest question about the bug fix priority: Recently many bugs that have been introduced have not been 3rd party bugs, but rather something ED has changed in the core sim that has affected a 3rd party module, with ED failing to communicate the relevant changes to the 3rd parties. Basically the 3rd party devs are frequently playing catch-up with ED and trying to figure out what is a bug with their code vs. what's a bug with ED's code that just happens to affect their module. My concern is things never progressing--or progressing extremely slowly--because of the constant game of "catch-up." The bugs basically never end, or never seem to reach a lull where development of something else can progress more quickly. How is that being handled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 It is a living, ever evolving environment, so everyone concentrates on what they can from their side, nothing unusual about it. Things can also shift/break unwillingly, hence please let us not point fingers, we are all working towards the same goals. You also cannot only bug fix, you have to introduce new content to keep it alive, and so ever-shifting grounds will always offer an ever-exciting challenge to both sides. A bit of catch-up is a normal thing, in everything that we do, I might add, as we learn and evolve. In general I would say that is a positive thing, it means progress, which naturally takes time. :) Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6Gun Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 IronMike, Any thoughts to adding controls to the carrier through an “Admiral Benjamin” kind of interface like Jester? Commands like come to a recovery or launch course, launch an S-3 for tanking. Something along those kind of lines. I like how you guys came up with the Jester functions and just would like to see it on other items as well. Admiral Benjamin would be the father of who Mav made several high speed passes on. Just putting the reference out there. ???? WIN10-64 HOME Ryzen9 3900x 4.0GHZ, 32GB DDR4, RX6800xt, 1TSSD Reverb G2, F-14 Simpit (WIP) Virpil Collective 60 head, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals, TM MFDs, 5 Leo Bodnar boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Our apologies that we cannot give any estimates or dates yet. It's not estimates or dates we are after. It's a progress update on the Forrestal? Especially since this was posted more then 6 months ago, just before release. A-6, Forrestal, F-14A: We will detail our plans regarding these ASAP. The Forrestal will be priority #1. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 It's not estimates or dates we are after. It's a progress update on the Forrestal? Especially since this was posted more then 6 months ago, just before release. With the recent shifts in DCS our priorities had to shift a bit, too, unfortunately, but that does not mean we are neglecting these assetts, only that bug fixing got top priority for the time being. Development stands a bit like on a moving surface, if you like, hence priorities need to be constantly adjusted. That does not mean that we are not working on the new assetts though, only that, as always with development news, we want to wait until it is in a more complete state. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0w Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 It's not estimates or dates we are after. It's a progress update on the Forrestal? I snooped around in the DCS CoreMods files for the F-14B and found the Forrestal to have some textures and code, but there is no 3D model for us to view. And there have been teasing of the ship by ralfidude and Jabbers from what I have been able to determine, but sadly nothing else in terms of a progress update. https://streamable.com/6d9jx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunaticfringe Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I do recall Cobra mentioning in a post reply somewhere about that with ED getting it together and building out deck crew in a fashion similar to their own work, emphasis on that particular aspect was being slowed down a bit on HB side. And to be fair, it's reasonable for them in some ways to want to wait and see what they can access from upcoming ED paid CV to make their own building out of the Forrestal faster with the deck crew, spawn logic, and find out how much they can touch of the ATC. Consider how much the situation has changed on the ED CV module since the F-14 dropped; we've gone from an informational black hole to seeing teasers fitted out with proper ATC audio (some of which has leaked into DCS) and the moving crew showing signs of real life. Its becoming tangible, and it stands there's a lot of stuff HB will be able to crib off of if we're just patient. Things that will make Forrestal a lot more fleshed out and free from issues when it drops, rather than the normal feature and bug chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4y30n Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Well aside from avoiding duplicating work, the other benefit of porting features from ED's carrier is commonality in the user experience. Anything that can be the same between the two boats probably should be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0w Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 I know that in the past, HB has stated that the Forrestal assets would be free to the F-14 module owner. But may I ask, just as a re-confirmation, that this is still being stood by in contrast to the DCS: Supercarrier we are seeing developed by ED? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladius Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Will the Dekcrew be used by the DCS aircraft carrier DLC at Forrestal, or will it have its own crew created specifically for the Forrestal? Hardware: Windows 11 64Bit, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Pro Wifi II, 64 GB Ram 3600 MHz DDR4, TUF RTX 4080 OC, M.2 SSD ADATA SX8200 2TB, Meta Quest 2, ASUS TUF VG279QM Monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog , VIRPIL VPC WarBRD Base mit TM Hornet Stick und Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedalen. Deutscher Guide zu: Mirage 2000C, MiG-21bis, F5 Tiger II, Mi-8MTV2, F-14B Tomcat, AJS-37 Viggen und Fulgabwehrsysteme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I know that in the past, HB has stated that the Forrestal assets would be free to the F-14 module owner. But may I ask, just as a re-confirmation, that this is still being stood by in contrast to the DCS: Supercarrier we are seeing developed by ED? :D Nothing has changed on that front. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra847 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 The Forrestal will launch this year- not sure which month exactly yet. Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The Forrestal will launch this year- not sure which month exactly yet. Wonderful news! Looking forward to that very much :thumbup:. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The Forrestal will launch this year- not sure which month exactly yet. Thanks for your and HB team awesome job. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | Buttkicker | SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0w Posted August 31, 2019 Author Share Posted August 31, 2019 Nothing has changed on that front. Thank goodness! I am glad that is still the case then. :) The Forrestal will launch this year- not sure which month exactly yet. You've just given me a huge buildup of testosterone because of this, time to go eject. :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I know that in the past, HB has stated that the Forrestal assets would be free to the F-14 module owner.[...] Nothing has changed on that front. Can you already tell us, how the Forrestal will compare to and play together with the paid ED carrier? Will the Forrestal offer the same features? Will the paid carrier be needed to unlock ED exclusive features for the Forrestal, like improved ATC etc.? How will the Forrestal work with Pilots, that don't own the F-14? While i appreciate the Forrestal being free for F-14 owners, i really hope you and ED can make it happen, that there is some config and gameplay parity between the two premium carriers. I'm not concerned about the number of features avaialble, but that those mechanics and features that are available work the same for both carriers. Thanks My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Does the F-14A have higher priority than the carrier? Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl0w Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Can you already tell us, how the Forrestal will compare to and play together with the paid ED carrier? Will the Forrestal offer the same features? Will the paid carrier be needed to unlock ED exclusive features for the Forrestal, like improved ATC etc.? How will the Forrestal work with Pilots, that don't own the F-14? While i appreciate the Forrestal being free for F-14 owners, i really hope you and ED can make it happen, that there is some config and gameplay parity between the two premium carriers. I'm not concerned about the number of features avaialble, but that those mechanics and features that are available work the same for both carriers. Thanks The DCS: Supercarrier is an upgraded Nimitz with better textures and a slightly more accurate 3D model. (AI one is inaccurate because of some dimension distortion) AFAIK ED plans on making multiple carriers for us, but HB was the first to do that including the Forrestal. The Forrestal will be absolutely free to use, while you need to buy the Supercarrier to have it in SP/MP. Does the F-14A have higher priority than the carrier? Please correct me on this Heatblur (not trying to speak for you guys) but the Forrestal and bugs have been their priority since, the F-14A is going to be next in-line as well as the campaign content and the A-6 AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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