Walleye

[hanab]

Hi,

 

I saw that the next weapon will be the walleye bomb. I do not know this bomb. What does she add more ? We already have jdam, gbu or maverick, what will be the advantages or disadvantages of walleye?

 

Thanks

[Revelation]

It allows you to guide the bomb all the way to impact using the camera on the bomb itself. I, personally, don't see myself using it that often.

 

Maybe in a historic-type mission where GBUs and LGBs are not available.

[Terry T.]

Nostalgia. This weapon was replaced by the Maverick family of missiles in the 90s. The JSOW, Maverick or SLAM-ER will offer better options.

[Wags]

It allows you to guide the bomb all the way to impact using the camera on the bomb itself. I, personally, don't see myself using it that often.

 

Maybe in a historic-type mission where GBUs and LGBs are not available.

 

It depends, it can be locked on before launch and guide on its own (like a Maverick), or if the datalink AWW-13 pod it is loaded, it supports man-in-the-loop post launch operator guidance. The datalink pod and guidance is taking a bit to develope (being worked on right now), but the same tech will be used for the SLAM and SLAM-ER.

 

Thanks

[nighthawk2174]

I got a question though wasn't the walleye retired from US service in the mid 90's so why are we getting it on our jet? I was just wondering about this as were not getting durandal's for the 18 even though they could carry them, even if they never really did.

[hanab]

I got a question though wasn't the walleye retired from US service in the mid 90's so why are we getting it on our jet? I was just wondering about this as were not getting durandal's for the 18 even though they could carry them, even if they never really did.

 

Because it’s in this list : https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3285514&postcount=13

[launchedsquid]

does the AWW-13 pod need to be on the launching aircraft? can a buddy guide my Walleye?

[dchriest]

does the AWW-13 pod need to be on the launching aircraft? can a buddy guide my Walleye?

 

 

The Walleye preceded laser guided weapons. The AGM-62 Walleye is a television-guided glide bomb. Guidance to the target is from a little television in the bomb itself and it glides steering with the fins on the rear end.

[Andrei]

The datalink pod and guidance is taking a bit to develope (being worked on right now), but the same tech will be used for the SLAM and SLAM-ER.

 

Hey, you did it already once in Jane's F/A-18 :)

[QuiGon]

I got a question though wasn't the walleye retired from US service in the mid 90's so why are we getting it on our jet? I was just wondering about this as were not getting durandal's for the 18 even though they could carry them, even if they never really did.

Because the F/A-18C was not just able to employ it IRL, but actually did so.

[amalahama]

Hi,

 

I saw that the next weapon will be the walleye bomb. I do not know this bomb. What does she add more ? We already have jdam, gbu or maverick, what will be the advantages or disadvantages of walleye?

 

Thanks

 

 

Easy. Imagine an overcast sky, you need to strike a moving target and you want to stay at safe altitude. You can release the walleye over the clouds to the approximate target location and then acquire the target when the bomb is under the cloud layer.

[Warmbrak]

If we get Walleye, I will be dumping my JDAMs, GBUs and Mavericks and ONLY use this weapon. Fire and forget is so yesterday.

[kaoqumba]

AGM62 has its own characteristics. But one of the reasons why we expect it is that we need to use the data link pod to throw it. The data link pod is used for SLAM and SLAM-ER at the same time, and the completion of AGM62 may speed up the progress of SLAM and SLAM-ER. This is the most powerful long-range weapon F/A18 can possess.

[Gierasimov]

AWW-13 pod

 

(...) AWW-13 pod it is loaded (...)

 

Thanks

 

My understanding is that the "man-in-the-loop" option means one station is taken away by the pod itself, is this correct? Can it be chin-mounted same as the TGP (not in DCS yet)?

[kengou]

Can the Walleye track a moving vehicle in autonomous delivery?

[ebabil]

TV on the bomb sounds great. Normally i don't see myself using it but onboard tv guidance will be fun. Certanly i will be using it

[QuiGon]

Will it be possible to buddy-guide the Walleye?

[kengou]

Will it be possible to buddy-guide the Walleye?

It really should be, based on real life, as that is how many walleyes were guided in Vietnam because of a shortage of data-link pods.

[CarbonFox]

I might use the Walleye, if we get one with a nuclear warhead. :smilewink:

[kaoqumba]

It depends, it can be locked on before launch and guide on its own (like a Maverick), or if the datalink AWW-13 pod it is loaded, it supports man-in-the-loop post launch operator guidance. The datalink pod and guidance is taking a bit to develope (being worked on right now), but the same tech will be used for the SLAM and SLAM-ER.

 

Thanks

 

After completing AGM62, does SLAM need to be redesigned and developed? I remember that SLAM already exists in DCS, but only AI can use it at present.

[RaisedByWolves]

If we get Walleye, I will be dumping my JDAMs, GBUs and Mavericks and ONLY use this weapon. Fire and forget is so yesterday.

 

Lol

[Preendog]

There are some good points here. Dropping through clouds makes it more versatile than an LGB, so is the BDA benefit of seeing exactly where the bomb hit.

 

I wonder if you can drop multiples. If you guide them in the order they are dropped, you could ripple a bunch of these a few seconds apart, at different targets.

[Harlikwin]

If we get Walleye, I will be dumping my JDAMs, GBUs and Mavericks and ONLY use this weapon. Fire and forget is so yesterday.

 

I mean, who wants to fire and forget right? I wanna drive that baby all the way to the target so I can see the surprised look on OPFORs faces... :megalol:

[Kev2go]

Because the F/A-18C was not just able to employ it IRL, but actually did so.

 

 

 

 

I have been unable to find any anecdotal references to its use by Hornets ( especially c models) in actual combat. Various sources saying hornets could but was otherwise employed on intruders and a7s as late as the gulf war but retired entirely shortly afterwards.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Kev2go

[QuiGon]

I have been unable to find any anecdotal references to its use by Hornets ( especially c models) in actual combat. Various sources saying hornets could but was otherwise employed on intruders and a7s as late as the gulf war but retired entirely shortly afterwards.

I didn't say combat. I don't know if (C-)Hornets have used them in actual combat, but they did in training. I think Jello from the Fighter Pilot Podcast has mentioned that IIRC.