gavagai Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Dear Customers, We planned and announced the release of our next Open Beta on the 20th November 2019. However, due to substantial technical issues faced in the development of certain F-16C Viper features we are compelled to move the Open Beta release to the 27th of November 2019. It makes me very happy that you have no problem with sharing that. Other developers just go radio silent when something goes awry. I love your progress on the F-16 and I am sure it will be worth the wait. :thumbup: P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobik2002 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It makes me very happy that you have no problem with sharing that. Other developers just go radio silent when something goes awry. I love your progress on the F-16 and I am sure it will be worth the wait. I think it too, I don't understand people why are they still angry? I know, I was looking forward but why I would be angry I can wait......... Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk Ryzen 9 5900x | 32GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | 32GB RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie Nelson Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Also happy to be kept in the loop, thanks for the update and looking forward to in house VOIP, should be great. Cheers. i7700k OC to 4.8GHz with Noctua NH-U14S (fan) with AORUS RTX2080ti 11GB Waterforce. 32GDDR, Warthog HOTAS and Saitek rudders. HP Reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Indeed, In really appreciate the openness shown by ED lately! Keep it up! :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted November 21, 2019 ED Team Share Posted November 21, 2019 Thanks for the feedback all. We have more news coming this week in the newsletter. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cercata Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I think it too, I don't understand people why are they still angry? I know, I was looking forward but why I would be angry I can wait......... Maybe because they gave a date por the TWS and it has been delayed ... Given the nature of the proyect, I think it's better not giving dates for the updates, just say what they are working on for the next updates. Some people wnat dates on advance, but the only way to do that is taking a lot of seceruty margin, and thet would delay the betas. For me it's not a problem, I'm ok with receiveing dates and delays after, but some people expect otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Fenrir Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 ED rarely give dates and when they do they always word their intent carefully. Some people should clarify for themselves the meaning of the words 'plan' and 'hope' and the speculative aspects that those terms infer. As for TWS - OMG! - you poor thing. Not like Hornet drivers been waiting two years for it, or the WW2 afficianados that have been waiting nearly three for the promised Asset Pack content to be completed. But then you're special I guess, more important than the rest of us mere mortals and you have the right to throw your toys around, hmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Agree with you but you forgot the most egrarious example. Multi crew for the Huey is 6 years and counting, but Ed are finally ‘working on it’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappa Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Maybe because they gave a date por the TWS and it has been delayed ... Given the nature of the proyect, I think it's better not giving dates for the updates, just say what they are working on for the next updates. Some people wnat dates on advance, but the only way to do that is taking a lot of seceruty margin, and thet would delay the betas. For me it's not a problem, I'm ok with receiveing dates and delays after, but some people expect otherwise. The process has been trasparent from the beginning, so ED did it right. If some people get over-excited when ED announce an update it's not an ED fault. -- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 36° Stormo Virtuale - Italian Virtual Flight Community www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzger Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 +1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid18120 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Maybe because they gave a date por the TWS and it has been delayed ... Given the nature of the proyect, I think it's better not giving dates for the updates, just say what they are working on for the next updates I don't think ED ever said "we'll release F16's TWS <thisDay> !" I'm pretty sure ED always words their related sentences like "We INTEND to release <feature> with the <date> <branch> update" and also "... everything is highly subject to change as the work progresses" or things along those lines. So no, ED hasn't given a release date, they just informed us about their intent which in return means they are hard working on <feature> which is a great thing. There's a massive difference there. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Simming since 2005 My Rig: Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming, AMD Ryzen7 2700X, G.Skill RipJaws 32GB DDR4-3200, EVGA RTX 2070 Super Black Gaming, Corsair HX850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cercata Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The process has been trasparent from the beginning, so ED did it right. If some people get over-excited when ED announce an update it's not an ED fault. I know, but that people doesn't understand arguments ... So I think is better not giving dates, you make less people angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 People are angry because it's the Internet and that's all some people do. ED should feel safe to announce a week's delay on a potentially significant patch. I work with code. Development is unpredictable at times and things might not go as planned (often don't). We appreciate the transparency , keep at it guys. :thumbup: The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman109 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 +1, great job ED, keep up the amazing work. Systems Virpil T50x2,T50CM2x2,Warbrd x2, VFX/Delta/CM2/Alpha/Tm Hornet sticks, VKB GF3, Tm Warthog(many), Modded Cougar, VKB Pedals/MFG Pedals/Slaw Viper RX+109Cam Pedals/Virpil T50+T50CM Throttle/CH Fightersticks/CH Throttles/CH peds, Index x1, Reverb x1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The process has been trasparent from the beginning, so ED did it right. If some people get over-excited when ED announce an update it's not an ED fault. Well said. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzicato Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I know, but that people doesn't understand arguments ... So I think is better not giving dates, you make less people angry Personally, I'd prefer that ED stick to their newfound openness and transparency versus caving to a small-but-vocal group of impatient people who get upset when they have to wait another week for an update to a video game. i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltUK Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 People are angry because it's the Internet and that's all some people do. ED should feel safe to announce a week's delay on a potentially significant patch. I work with code. Development is unpredictable at times and things might not go as planned (often don't). We appreciate the transparency , keep at it guys. :thumbup: No reason to announce until its in the bag. Might have learnt from pushing out an alpha F16 and yes ive heard ALL the reasons/excuses. Perhaps a cynical ploy to defuse the growing clammer for progress. Windows 7/10 64bit, Intel i7-4770K 3.9GHZ, 32 GB Ram, Gforce GTX 1080Ti, 11GB GDDR5 Valve Index. Force IPD 63 (for the F-16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 No reason to announce until its in the bag. Might have learnt from pushing out an alpha F16 and yes ive heard ALL the reasons/excuses. Perhaps a cynical ploy to defuse the growing clammer for progress.Indeed, that's the alternative, ED never releasing any news until the stuff is in the game. How many people want this though? I prefer knowing what's in the pipeline. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltUK Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Indeed, that's the alternative, ED never releasing any news until the stuff is in the game. How many people want this though? I prefer knowing what's in the pipeline. Big difference between news and a release date that clearly was not realistic. Always room for NEWS and "whats in the pipeline" Windows 7/10 64bit, Intel i7-4770K 3.9GHZ, 32 GB Ram, Gforce GTX 1080Ti, 11GB GDDR5 Valve Index. Force IPD 63 (for the F-16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Big difference between news and a release date that clearly was not realistic. Always room for NEWS and "whats in the pipeline"It was a planned date for a patch that would add additional features, not a release date. Maybe they found a last minute bug, who knows? I've done it myself at my job, as has everyone else there and I work for an organization of several thousand people. Code development is like that. Maybe they could've held off on the announcement or be more vague, but that's all. Edited November 21, 2019 by Harker The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strikeeagle345 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Agreed. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappa Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I know, but that people doesn't understand arguments ... So I think is better not giving dates, you make less people angry But you make less people happy too. This was me when the patch has been delayed : :badmood: But, when I realized they did it in total trasparency with all the respect for the community, well, this made me happy. Just because they are involving us. Why all you guys are here in this forum? To get involved or just to complain? I think the first answer is the right one. :) -- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 36° Stormo Virtuale - Italian Virtual Flight Community www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Definitely a step in the right direction. Not quite the gold star yet, so lets not get overexcited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Jammer Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 This is one of the most exciting newsletter ever. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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