Eagerly awaited aircraft for DCS World

[Fri13]

Maybe the game changing part would be the 2nd best fighter in the United States Air Force being able to be simulated in detail for the first time? If they weren't able to do it before, being able to do it now would certainly be game changing.

 

We already have a F-16 in DCS...

[waldorf]

British jets seem to be missing out in DCS.... BAC Lightning, Canberra B2, Jet Provost and Buccaneer to name but a few...?

[Teknetinium]

You don't think the F-22 and F-15 are above the F-16 in performance when it comes to air to air combat?

 

I think, F-16, F-18, F-14, AV-8, A-10 should do just fine, some more focus on other side of the coin plz.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

We have the Su-27S - the Su-27P is air-to-air only and does not have any air-to-ground capability(unguided rockets/dumb bombs).

 

 

 

Just the Su-27SM

 

Thanks for the clarification. I always get the S and the P mixed up.

Edited March 12, 2020 by MiG21bisFishbedL

[Ganesh]

I think, F-16, F-18, F-14, AV-8, A-10 should do just fine, some more focus on other side of the coin plz.

Indeed, all other would be mindboring breathlessness :yawn:

Edited March 12, 2020 by Ganesh

[Fri13]

You don't think the F-22 and F-15 are above the F-16 in performance when it comes to air to air combat?

 

F-22 is unproven experiment (to another unproven F-35), Where F-15 is their best proven fighter, and F-16 second best.

[Seaeagle]

Thanks for the clarification. I always get the S and the P mixed up.

 

You are welcome :) .

 

In Soviet times, the Su-27S was assigned to the regular airforce(VVS), while the Su-27P was operated by the air defence forces(PVO).

 

Unfortunately my Russian is very limited, so we might need a native Russian-speaker to confirm, but AFAIK the "S" designation stands for "improved/enhanced", while "P" is for "interceptor".

[AeriaGloria]

I’m sure that’s S in comparison to the ogival winged T-10 prototypes, same reason it’s Flanker-B I always assumed

[Seaeagle]

I’m sure that’s S in comparison to the ogival winged T-10 prototypes, same reason it’s Flanker-B I always assumed

 

Yes I believe thats the case - IIRC Sukhoi designated the improved design(the one that entered service) the T-10S.

 

But the "S" designation has also been assigned to other aircraft(like "MiG-29S") and usually denotes a moderately updated/improved variant as opposed to "M" for something more radical.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

I always got that one was a dedicated interceptor for the PVO and the other was a tactical fighter for the VVS, but I always mixed up which was which.

[Gierasimov]

Friday 13th

 

F-22 is unproven experiment (to another unproven F-35), Where F-15 is their best proven fighter, and F-16 second best.

 

Happy Fri 13 mate.

[killkenny1]

You are welcome :) .

 

In Soviet times, the Su-27S was assigned to the regular airforce(VVS), while the Su-27P was operated by the air defence forces(PVO).

 

Unfortunately my Russian is very limited, so we might need a native Russian-speaker to confirm, but AFAIK the "S" designation stands for "improved/enhanced", while "P" is for "interceptor".

IIRC S mean "seriynyi" (серийный) or serial, meaning final version meant for manufacture.

 

I also remember reading somewhere that there is no such thing as Su-27S at least in official documentation. It's either just Su-27 or T-10-something. Unfortunately I cannot provide a source on that...

[AeriaGloria]

I believe you. In eyes of MOD there is no Su-33 but Su-27K, and lots of other stuff like that. It could just be Sukhoi marketing

[Seaeagle]

IIRC S mean "seriynyi" (серийный) or serial, meaning final version meant for manufacture.

 

Well I could be wrong, but I don't think so :) . I think thats just an assumption based on the specific situation regarding the development of the Su-27. As mentioned above, there are other examples of the "S" suffix being used to denote a refinement/update to aircraft already in serial production.

 

I also remember reading somewhere that there is no such thing as Su-27S at least in official documentation. It's either just Su-27 or T-10-something. Unfortunately I cannot provide a source on that...

 

Look here: http://www.knaapo.ru/about/history/aviamuseum/aviamuseum-2/

 

Its a page on the Knaapo website listing aircraft types previously produced by the plant - as you can see they refer to the Su-27 production as "Су-27С/П, 1982"

 

So I think its more a case of the "S" and "P" suffixes just not being used much although there clearly is a difference between the two sub-variants.

[Kev2go]

Happy Fri 13 mate.

 

This :D

 

( good timing when it was posted btw heh)

Edited March 15, 2020 by Kev2go

[Gierasimov]

Not only DCS.

 

British jets seem to be missing out in DCS.... BAC Lightning, Canberra B2, Jet Provost and Buccaneer to name but a few...?

 

Seems these are missing from my brain as well. First time I see these names.

[blunt_waco]

Apache for the love of God. We need something against the KA50.

[Fri13]

Is there any timetable when is this new mysterious aircraft to be announced?

Spring 2020?

Winter 2020?

When it is ready?

[Fri13]

Happy Fri 13 mate.

 

LOL, thanks (by late)!

 

Didn't get it first as didn't connect the dots. :-)

[ResonantCard1]

Imo the announced plane is going to be the F-15C. They already have the 3D model so that cuts EA release time, and an F-15C would sell like candy. I wish it was a Su-27 or MiG-29 but those are highly unlikely, and given that ED appears to be looking for profits (to stay afloat and work on the base game, so it makes sense), a russian plane would be more unlikely than an US one. Leaving issues with the russian government aside, ofc

[wilbur81]

My most eagerly awaited plane is the FPS-60 Optimizer. Fingers crossed for that one. :thumbup:

[Kang]

Seems these are missing from my brain as well. First time I see these names.

You might know the Canberra as the Martin B-57, as the licence-built American version was called.

[QuiGon]

Is there any timetable when is this new mysterious aircraft to be announced?

Spring 2020?

Winter 2020?

When it is ready?

ED said "later this year".

[Gierasimov]

This

 

Is there any timetable when is this new mysterious aircraft to be announced?

Spring 2020?

Winter 2020?

When it is ready?

 

This is going to see daylight when ED has got breathing space.

 

Source - YT comment to DCS WORLD | 2020 AND BEYOND

 

The next big announcement is huge, but we are very laser-focused on what we have to finish right now, when we get some more breathing room, you will hear what is coming :) -NineLine/Norm

[Tomas9970]

The next big announcement is huge, but we are very laser-focused on what we have to finish right now, when we get some more breathing room, you will hear what is coming -NineLine/Norm

 

This goes together with their plan to finish the F/A-18 and F-16 this year which means the that the Eagerly awaited aircraft is supposed to be something modern and western.