Northstar98 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 We won't see a stable update until 2.5.6 gets sorted out. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonbirder Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 We won't see a stable update until 2.5.6 gets sorted out. I apprecaite there's probably preblems, development & testing to iron out...but would be nice if they'd give an estimated release date... After all...there'll be preblems, development & testing to iron out on the Supercarrier release...but ED have given an estimated release date of late May, there'll be preblems, development & testing to iron out on the F/A18 Hornets functionality - especially complex new systems like the AG radar and the ECM pod release...but ED have given an estimated release date of December. I know the Stable version of DCS is a bit of a "cinderella" (I mean only TWICE as many people use it as Open Beta) but SOME communication would be nice... Given the reams and reams of Communications, Video's, newsletters, feedback from the Senior Management Team at ED, forum feedback from the Community reps here etc etc devoted to news for the Open Beta version... Surely just a tiny, tiny fraction of the communications devoted to the Open Beta version could be spared for what is, in actuality the overwhelming majority of their customers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) I apprecaite there's probably preblems, development & testing to iron out...but would be nice if they'd give an estimated release date... After all...there'll be preblems, development & testing to iron out on the Supercarrier release...but ED have given an estimated release date of late May, there'll be preblems, development & testing to iron out on the F/A18 Hornets functionality - especially complex new systems like the AG radar and the ECM pod release...but ED have given an estimated release date of December. As I understand it the Hornet will still get incremental upgrades (like it always has), but the plan is to get everything on their planned list by December. We should see some features come out earlier, but all planned for December should be done by December. I know the Stable version of DCS is a bit of a "cinderella" (I mean only TWICE as many people use it as Open Beta) but SOME communication would be nice... The thing is, until they can get OB fixed, they really can't tell, it's only when the OB is running as it should be when they can give realistic estimates for stable updates. But they have been communicating, BIGNEWY at least has done it a lot - they simply don't know until OB gets sorted out. Edited May 14, 2020 by Northstar98 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonbirder Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 The thing is, until they can get OB fixed, they really can't tell, it's only when the OB is running as it should be when they can give realistic estimates for stable updates. I don't understand how they can confidently give estimates for barnd new product development (Supercarrier, F/A18C, P47 etc) but they can't give an estimate for things that have already been developed, tested in closed beta and are currently with a portion of the userbase in openbeta... What's the difference? But they have been communicating, BIGNEWY at least has done it a lost Witht he greatest of respect to BIGNEWY who has admittedly a thankless task...he's done nothing...there has been no communication about updates, new product releases, new functionality, when modules will be available, when the F/A18 will move out of Early Access for the vast majority of the userbase (IE: those on stable) AT ALL...nothing, not one word, hint or suggestion... Now, imagine if the Open Beta crowd (a minority lets remember) who get upset if the Supercarrier OB is pushed back a few weeks or a D/L Hotfix for the Viper isn't added immediately...got THAT level of support and comm's...there'd be blood on the forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 14, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Merged threads. jasonbirder I don't know what else I can say to you. We have made it very clear in our posts how the update process works. we have also explained the problems we had with 2.5.6 and why we were not happy to update the stable version until the issues are resolved. I can tell you now if we had updated the stable version with the issues we have been seeing in open beta it would have been far worse for everyone. You need to accept that our open beta is the public test build, it is used for finding problems before they get to the stable version, if we find problems it will delay any stable update. On top of that we also had the covid situation and many are working from home which has slowed things down. As soon as we have news about the next patch for open beta we will share it, if that patch goes well and public feedback is good we will update the stable version. thanks Edited May 14, 2020 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PE_Tigar Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 No not at all, no matter how many people we throw at a version it still doesn't compare to public Open Beta, and its always going to be a good thing to have that buffer before releasing to stable. Well, since most of us are indeed beta testing, maybe ED could consider giving us a more structured way of reporting bugs and issues. Doing it through forum threads is not only inefficient, but demotivating as well, as most input is left without official response, instead attracting off-the-cuff remarks from people usually too busy to properly read the reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 14, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hi all We are planning an open beta update for the 20th of May which will include the super carrier. Thank you for your patience Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Let's hope it goes well :thumbup: Fingers crossed Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 14, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted May 14, 2020 I have added a closed sticky here with the next patch info so it is not lost in discussion. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=273255 thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I have added a closed sticky here with the next patch info so it is not lost in discussion. Good idea! Cheers! :thumbup: Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Gigabyte RX6900XT | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | HP Reverb G2 Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2+3 base / CM2 x2 grip with 200 mm S-curve extension + CM3 throttle + CP2/3 + FSSB R3L + VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS "HIGH" preset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I have added a closed sticky here with the next patch info so it is not lost in discussion. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=273255 thanks Brilliant, please keep updating this. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigfan86 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hi all We are planning an open beta update for the 20th of May which will include the super carrier. Thank you for your patience Thats awesome news. Will there be a changelog released before download day, so we can review what to expect aside from super carrier? Or will that occur on the 20th as well? System: Ryzen 5900x, G.Skill 3600 32GB, MSI 4090 suprim liquid X, samsung odyssey+ headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonbirder Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Well, since most of us are indeed beta testing Most??? More than twice as many on stable as on open Beta which is less than a third of the DCS user base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonbirder Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 if that patch goes well and public feedback is good we will update the stable version. Well that IS fantastic news...very encouraging...so we can hope (in an ideal world) for an update to stable early June (2 weeks after the 20th May OB?) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneDust Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 If you do you will enjoy ALL the good with only a little bad. Others may argue otherwise but they have no patience. :thumbup: … or they are more meticulous and seeing the issues. :thumbup: Alienware New Aurora R15 | Windows® 11 Home Premium | 64bit, 13thGen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 13900KF(24-Core, 68MB| NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 4090, 24GB GDDR6X | 1 X 2TB SSD, 1X 1TB SSD | 64GB, 2x32GB, DDR5, 4800MHz | 1350W PSU, Alienware Cryo-tech (TM) Edition CPU Liquid Cooling power supply | G2 Rverb VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I've got a question about the supercarrier. If I bought the Supercarrier from Steam, but my DCS Steam installation is the stable release, while my standalone installation is the open beta. Would I still be able to migrate the Supercarrier license from steam to my standalone open beta? Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Most??? More than twice as many on stable as on open Beta which is less than a third of the DCS user base. Source?? Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 14, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted May 14, 2020 Thats awesome news. Will there be a changelog released before download day, so we can review what to expect aside from super carrier? Or will that occur on the 20th as well? Change log will be on patch day thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Source?? Kate said something like 60% on stable, 30% on beta and the rest on legacy versions. Personally, I have difficulty in believing that. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 If I bought the Supercarrier from Steam, but my DCS Steam installation is the stable release, while my standalone installation is the open beta. Would I still be able to migrate the Supercarrier license from steam to my standalone open beta? AFAIK Yes, as the licence check looks for ownership, not if it's installed, however there may be a delay (to update the licence DB) if looking to migrate on day 1 of the release. YMMV i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Source?? Here we go again. According to Kate P., 60% of people are on stable, 30% on OB, ~10% on legacy builds Additionally, approx 60% SP and 40% MP [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I can hardly wait for the patch. Having 2 installations of DCS, I can clearly see the gap between the stable and open beta, and its getting bigger. When performance would allow, I like using the Open Beta more than the stable. Great job ED in getting Open Beta closer to the performance level of the stable release in vr. Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Kate said something like 60% on stable, 30% on beta and the rest on legacy versions. Personally, I have difficulty in believing that. I find these proportions plausible in current situation with all the 2.5.6 shenanigans. I suspect, however, it was the other way around back in pre-2.5.5. era. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Kate said something like 60% on stable, 30% on beta and the rest on legacy versions. Personally, I have difficulty in believing that. I find these proportions plausible in current situation with all the 2.5.6 shenanigans. I suspect, however, it was the other way around back in pre-2.5.5. era. Thanks. For me personally I usually fall in line with the latest that has the most content and of course playable. If they're both the same then of course I will ride the stable. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngreenaway Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4287694&postcount=115 Here's the source [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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