CommandT Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 So I've just got back into DCS after spending countless hours on the original Flaming Cliffs many moons ago. And after all this time there is still no PAPI lights? What the hell?!! Or am I just being stupid and you can turn them on in some menue somewhere in settings? If there's indeed no PAPI's how do people judge their approach angle to the runway without an ILS? I mean even on a standard visual circuit... :huh:
Svsmokey Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 https://www.google.com/search?q=visual+approach+glideslope+picture&oq=visual+approach+glideslope+picture&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.24561j0j8&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=DIm3tjK0GkuSwM: Note how the runway is truncated top to bottom for various glideslopes . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
draconus Posted April 30, 2020 Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Call ATC>Inbound - follow the correct runway heading, they will turn on the lights if there are PAPIs installed in the first place. Edited April 30, 2020 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
MAXsenna Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Call ATC>Inbound - follow the correct runway heading, they will turn on the lights if there are PAPIs installed in the first place.Yup. Works every time, depend on correct runway heading too, right? Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk
Yurgon Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 And after all this time there is still no PAPI lights? Many airports have PAPI lights in DCS, but certainly not all of them. If there's indeed no PAPI's how do people judge their approach angle to the runway without an ILS? I mean even on a standard visual circuit... :huh: Decent airmanship, visual cues, vertical speed, AoA, FPM/TVV... How do GA pilots do it when their small field doesn't have PAPIs? How did WW2 pilots do it? It's not like PAPIs are the one and only way to judge a good glidepath. Call ATC>Inbound - follow the correct runway heading, they will turn on the lights if there are PAPIs installed in the first place. Sounds like good advice. Shouldn't PAPIs be on all day long anyway? In 2.5.5 there's an issue where airports might not turn on their lights at all, even after getting the inbound call (pretty sure about MP, not sure about SP), in 2.5.6 (OpenBeta) it seems to be okay.
LuckyFromArma Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Some runways don't have papi lights. Lachini's 31L has papi lights, but 31R doesn't.:pilotfly:
CommandT Posted May 1, 2020 Author Posted May 1, 2020 Call ATC>Inbound - follow the correct runway heading, they will turn on the lights if there are PAPIs installed in the first place. Interesting. I'll try it. Strange you have to call ATC in the game to get the PAPIs on. In real life they usually always stay on regardless.
MAXsenna Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Interesting. I'll try it. Strange you have to call ATC in the game to get the PAPIs on. In real life they usually always stay on regardless.I read somewhere here once that power saving in the Caucasus is simulated. Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk
unknown Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 You don't have to call inbound, they are always on. For example Batumi, i didn't call inbound but PAPI's are on.(see pic) Not all Airfields have PAPI's. Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings
Northstar98 Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 Yeah, definitely noticed lights at Tblisi, pretty most larger airbases and airports in the SoH map have PAPIs (though at Khasab 2 lights seem to be clipped into each other). Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Art-J Posted May 1, 2020 Posted May 1, 2020 I think on Caucasus map only Batumi and Lochini are equipped with PAPIs, but that's apparently correct for the timeframe the map is supposed to represent. I'm also sure they're on all the time. No idea about other maps, though. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
=475FG= Dawger Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 So I've just got back into DCS after spending countless hours on the original Flaming Cliffs many moons ago. And after all this time there is still no PAPI lights? What the hell?!! Or am I just being stupid and you can turn them on in some menue somewhere in settings? If there's indeed no PAPI's how do people judge their approach angle to the runway without an ILS? I mean even on a standard visual circuit... :huh: Its 300 feet per nautical mile for a 3 degree glide path. You learn what it looks like after a while. One of the required maneuvers in every US ATP checkride is a no flap landing with no visual glide aid specifically to test this important skill. The inability to do this is what caused the Korean Air accident in SFO.
Cake Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 One of the required maneuvers in every US ATP checkride is a no flap landing with no visual glide aid specifically to test this important skill. The inability to do this is what caused the Korean Air accident in SFO. Sounds like the LOC Rwy 27 circle to 18R at Memphis. 6700K@4.6 48Gb - 1080Ti Hybrid - Warthog - RIFT
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