We need more Cowbell.

[CAmastersgt]

I would love to see more of the 60's and 70's fighters and fighter bombers. Just an era that seems to need a bit of attention. I think this was the best era of military aviation. Yes all that F-35/F-22, glass cockpit, 100 percent kill percentage weapons are great yet they end up being ultimately boring.

 

I hope we see developers bridge the gap between the F-86 and the F-15. So the likes of the F-4, F-104, Mig-23, Mig-27, FH-24, EE Lightning, F-111, F-102/106, etc would be super welcome IMHO. There are too many planes and weapons to mention but that era was exciting to me. Hope to see them in the future and expand the fun.

 

 

Thanks ED and Third Parties for your hard work.

[Buzzles]

Some of those you've asked for are actually in progress.

 

ED have the F-4 on the backburner and Razbam are doing the Mig-23, both playable modules.

 

Razbam are also making a new model for the EE Lightning, so at the very least it'll be an AI plane.

 

 

In a similar timeframe, M3 are doing an F-8 Crusader as a playable.

[VZ_342]

Hopefully the Cowbell will be able to self-lase. I’m not sure if there was a two-seater variant?

[CAmastersgt]

Looks like exciting times ahead, thanks all.

[Evoman]

The EE Lightning would be one of those jets that would definitely be fun to fly but it would not be very useful in any other role except for short range intercepts because it guzzles more fuel an even an F-4 Phantom. You would actually have to keep an eye on the fuel gauge to make sure you can make it back to base.

[ngreenaway]

For cowbell, we must first have cows

[msalama]

We need more balalaika. Give me the IL-2 and the IL-10 both.

[Baco]

Totally Agree the golden age of jet combat 60s ans 70s...

[Evoman]

I was just looking at this page again that lists all of the projects and status that every single developer has in the pipeline for DCS. It seems a out of date but I it gives a good idea of what the road map looked like at one point in time. And saw that the F-105 Thundercheif and the A-4M Skyhawk II is in planned status by RAZBAM. So those two aircraft might eventually make it to DCS for sure.

 

 

https://dr.squirrelboy12.com/DCSDevelopers/

Edited May 25, 2020 by Evoman

[Evoman]

I just saw today that RAZBAM is in fact currently developing an export version of the EE Lighting.

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/

 

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by Evoman
error correcting

[WinterH]

Yep, I too am most interested in pre 90s aircraft for DCS. We seem to be on a spell for 4th gen fighters with 90s-2000s avionics galore, and I really want to get 60-80s stuff for the most part.

 

They just fit in with many existing assets, are both capable but limited enough to make them fun and interesting, and red side jets are more likely to happen from this period, finally match ups with some sort of balance can be made for enjoyable scearios, single and multiplayer alike.

 

Still outright despise ED for that whole F-4E out, F-16C in trick :).

 

Mirage III,V,F-1, Super Etendard, every century series except that ugly F-101 :P, F-4E, Buccaneer, Jaguar, Tornado, A-6E, MiG-25, MiG-27, Su-15, Su-17/20/22, Q-5... seriously bring these on!

 

Though to be fair I'd like more modernish variants of a few of those.

 

We will be getting some of them though, F-8J Crusader is in development by Magnitude 3, Mirage F-1 is planned by Aviodev, A-7E is in dev by a new 3rd party studio named Flying Iron Simulations, We have a Mi-24P coming, Deka Ironworks want to do either a Q-5 or J-8 as their next module, Heatblur may end up doing A-6E after the Tomcat is finished, Razbam has many in their pipeline.

[Cool Breeze]

I was just looking at this page again that lists all of the projects and status that every single developer has in the pipeline for DCS. And saw that the F-105 Thundercheif and the A-4M Skyhawk II is in planned status by RAZBAM. So those two aircraft will eventually make it to DCS for sure.

https://dr.squirrelboy12.com/DCSDevelopers/

 

 

 

The info on Razbam is very out of date. They no longer have the A-7 as it's gone to another developer. It's doubtful they would be able to develop the A-6 as that would require building out an entire AI system like Heatblur's Jester and Iceman. They have stated an unwillingness to develop an AI for their Strike Eagle, so very unlikely they will want try it for the Intruder.

 

Heatblur is already developing the A-6 and KA-6 AI for the Tomcat, along with a carrier and a few other AI units, they are the best placed company to receive a contract for the Intruder.

 

As for the Thunderchief, Razbam already has something like 11 unreleased aircraft modules on the roadmap, and that's not counting the Falklands map with it's litany of AI units. They have a good three to five years of development with just those alone. What's going to make the Thunderchief an almost insurmountable challenge is when Republic Aircraft when to the butchers nearly all of their libraries of data on their aircraft and other projects was outright destroyed! This in my opinion was one of the reason's Eagle Dynamics had such a hard time piecing the P-47 Thunderbolt together. Eagle Dynamics, I believe, had to literally recreate the wind tunnel and some of the performance on their own.

[WinterH]

...

 

https://dr.squirrelboy12.com/DCSDevelopers/

 

 

People are giving way too much credit to this website. A lot of information there looks outdated, some seems to be listed as in dev or planned with only the slightest hints, and the site doesn't list some new third parties like Flying Iron who are doing A-7.

 

Also lists Belsimtek, which is not a thing anymore, and list AH-1W under their section, which was turned into AH-1F long ago, and still somewhat long ago seem to have gotten postponed. There are many more inaccurate information listed there.

[Aluminum Donkey]

I hope we see developers bridge the gap between the F-86 and the F-15. So the likes of the F-4, F-104, Mig-23, Mig-27, FH-24, EE Lightning, F-111, F-102/106, etc would be super welcome IMHO. There are too many planes and weapons to mention but that era was exciting to me. Hope to see them in the future and expand the fun.

 

 

Join ED and go to it! :)

 

 

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[Evoman]

The info on Razbam is very out of date. They no longer have the A-7 as it's gone to another developer. It's doubtful they would be able to develop the A-6 as that would require building out an entire AI system like Heatblur's Jester and Iceman. They have stated an unwillingness to develop an AI for their Strike Eagle, so very unlikely they will want try it for the Intruder.

 

Heatblur is already developing the A-6 and KA-6 AI for the Tomcat, along with a carrier and a few other AI units, they are the best placed company to receive a contract for the Intruder.

 

As for the Thunderchief, Razbam already has something like 11 unreleased aircraft modules on the roadmap, and that's not counting the Falklands map with it's litany of AI units. They have a good three to five years of development with just those alone. What's going to make the Thunderchief an almost insurmountable challenge is when Republic Aircraft when to the butchers nearly all of their libraries of data on their aircraft and other projects was outright destroyed! This in my opinion was one of the reason's Eagle Dynamics had such a hard time piecing the P-47 Thunderbolt together. Eagle Dynamics, I believe, had to literally recreate the wind tunnel and some of the performance on their own.

 

 

 

 

It does seems out of date but I it does gives a good idea of what the road map looked like at one point in time. It would be great if this info could get updated or if someone else knows of another similar page.

 

 

 

I also hope Heatblur is able to do the A6 if they can get a license.

 

 

 

I did not know that about Republic Aircraft which makes sense why the P-47 has been a challenge.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Evoman

[BuzzU]

Can we shoot the cow? I love steak.

[FlankerKiller]

One, I can't agree more. I was really hoping to see DCS climb up the complexity latter through the ages of air combat, but alas that was not to be, and honestly I can't say I'm complaining. But IRL there was some serious air to air during the cold war, and it would be pretty sweet to get to simulate some of that. There's just enough in game to wet the appetite, but there is room for much much more. Personally I would love to see some attack jet/medium bomber action. Although I do think this is an area that was also pretty neglected IRL. Personally I would love more nukes in game, but dream on. But back to topic, after seeing the Mig-19 I really wish Razbam, and other third parties would focus more effort in the Korean - Vietnam war. There was a ton of air combat during this period, and you actually have to maneuver with your opponent. But you get early radar ranging gun sights, and even early Fox-2's. So yes I would love to see a Mirage 3, F-100, F-102, Mig-17. So yes, I +1 the OP.

[Kirk66]

The EE Lightning would be one of those jets that would definitely be fun to fly but it would not be very useful in any other role except for short range intercepts because it guzzles more fuel an even an F-4 Phantom. You would actually have to keep an eye on the fuel gauge to make sure you can make it back to base.

 

Without digging out my reference books I would bet the Lightning has better legs than the Mig-21, yet that seems to be popular...

 

And I TOTALLY agree with focusing on Gen 3/4 jets; glass cockpits are boring. Plus you can jump into any one of them and know how most of the kit works right off the bat!

 

Now, how about an A-1H/T-28D/OV-10/F-100/HH-3/O-1G set with a Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia/Thailand map...

 

Vulture

[Scrofa]

Another one on the hunt for 3rd/4th gen fighters, with gauges and tons of trimming to do to master. It would make fantastic sense to be able to go through the milestones in aviation and adding systems and ease of use, but coming from the eras where most of the flying and targeting was done by hand.