ED Team Wags Posted February 23, 2008 ED Team Posted February 23, 2008 Reading some various web sites and threads, there appears to be a concern about having to spend several minutes manually starting the aircraft each time. To ease some concerns: 1- If you wish to start on the ramp/FARP, you can either manually start the aircraft (as seen in videos) or press a key for an automatic start sequence. The option is yours. 2- You can start on the runway or FARP with all systems up and running. 3- You can start in the air with all systems up and running. Hope this alleviates some concerns. Matt Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544
CAT_101st Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 I'm sure that will relive alot of peoples minds. I will be doing a ramp start every time to keep it as real as posable. :thumbup: Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
Force_Feedback Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 So we can't have a Charlie's Angels 2 startup? ED damnit!! Think of the realism!!! A cold air start is mandatory!!! Reamism my ass with those 4, we need a fifth one: in the air, all systems off, and female pilots. and catsuits Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
joey45 Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 yeah at about 20.000ft up... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
- Piloto da Morte - Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 nice to know this, thank you :)
kiss4luna Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 So we can't have a Charlie's Angels 2 startup? ED damnit!! Think of the realism!!! A cold air start is mandatory!!! Reamism my ass with those 4, we need a fifth one: in the air, all systems off, and female pilots. and catsuits wow, that's cool! I support it! RTX 3070
plane00 Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Ramp start is mandatory I was impressed with ramp start procedure of some flight game. Once you experience start procedure , you should want it.
nscode Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Yea, but every once in a while a man (or woman) needs a quick after-lunch shoot'em'all, so those come in handy :) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
159th_Viper Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 And No doubt the occasional Good Laugh on a Squad night whilst you PWN your Buddy on the ramp whilst he's still busy Fumbling his buttons through a Cold-Start...........30mm Persuasion to a Quick Start - Yeah :pilotfly: 1 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Yellonet Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 But can you start in the air witout any of the systems running? :) Would be a fun challenge, start at 5000 meters with every system off :D Would it be possible to make it without ejecting? Can you even autorotate with every system off? Oh.. FF beat me :) i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
sobek Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 I think what would happen is, since you cannot control the chopper withouth hydraulic pressure, you would overspeed the rotor before being able to enter stable flight. Or hit the ground first. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
nscode Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Who says you can't? Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
sobek Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 (edited) Someone around here who has Mi-24 expierience said that it was impossible to control the chopper in total hyd failure. The Ka-50 is of comparable size and weight, so i think that applies to it as well. Edited August 24, 2008 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
AlphaOneSix Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 If the rotor started spinning, you'd soon have hydraulic and electrical power...and assuming it started from flat pitch, it wouldn't even overspeed. WIN-WIN in my book!
ThunderChief Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 If you start from 5000m, no airspeed and no spinnig rotor, you would surely fall like a stone and the rotor wouldn't start to spin by it self. And without a spinning rotor, the blades would surely hit each other or the fuselage. But i'd say you have at least 50 seconds before hitting the ground, so you might have a very little chance to start the engines and establish controled flight.
sobek Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Is negative pitch possible with helis (the non rc type)? Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
RvETito Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Is negative pitch possible with helis (the non rc type)? No. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
quo vadis Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 Wow ! I think we've come up with a new way of deploying helicopters that overcomes the troublesome flying to the battlefield ! Just fill a transport plane with heli's and chuck 'm out in the required zone ! :joystick: I wonder why they never thought of that before :megalol:
CAT_101st Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 this is just a dum idea. but shuld be explored 1 or 2 times :D Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
RvETito Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 James Bond did it. :D I believe Jack Bauer too ;) "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Yellonet Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 And guy. Anyway, it would be a fun little thing to try with the Ka-50. i7-2600k@4GHz, 8GB, R9 280X 3GB, SSD, HOTAS WH, Pro Flight Combat Pedals, TIR5
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