FARP PADS THAT ARE NOT GREEN!

[Hawkeye_UK]

Given that 100% of payware maps for modern conflict zones within DCS are based in sandy desert areas i would love to know why the Farp Pads do not come in more than one colour in the mission editor.

 

Its 10 minutes of a dev's time to change the colour palette, an hour at most if they wanted to add texture.

 

Please resolve as its a terrible break in immersion and they look hideous out in the Desert for mission designers.

 

Can we at least have a sand coloured Farp Pad, ideally more than one that match, PG, Syria and Nevada.

 

Common ED its a long overdue and simple win.

Edited September 4, 2020 by Hawkeye_UK

[WelshZeCorgi]

PLUS ONE!!!!

[sirrah]

ED said they're working on it (page 2 of this thread)

 

Apparently this is an extremely complicated and long lasting task :music_whistling::P

[Northstar98]

+1 the static objects realy could do with a major overhaul in general - the vast majority of objects are ancient stuff from pre-LOMAC

[Hawkeye_UK]

ED said they're working on it (page 2 of this thread)

 

Apparently this is an extremely complicated and long lasting task :music_whistling::P

 

Yep this was back in March - and i commented then about it straight away.

 

I cannot believe its been overlooked once again especially with Syria also now out there.

 

For as i said an hour at most (for a decent one with texture) its ridiculous that ED have not sorted this by now????

 

Enter Bignewy or nineline please....

[Hawkeye_UK]

PS - Maybe if we post it on the Russian forums it would get listened too perhaps and actually something done.

 

Rare to i see the dev's reply on these forums.

[Weta43]

All it really needs is to be able to change the skin through the liveries part of the loadout page, and - isn't there already a line in the mission editor .lua about test loadout for vehicles (= false) ?

 

Maybe they'e creating that as a more generic cross class ability rather than something that's specific to aircraft, & skins for FARP will arrive as part of a generic change, rather than as a piecemeal change just to FARP.

[Hawkeye_UK]

Bump given that we are now 8 months on , now running 2.7 and we still do not have a sand coloured farp.

 

Given that all Payware maps have desert can one of the devs spare literally 1 HOUR to sort this out please.

 

Its crazy that we are still waiting, its such a simple change.  

 

Looks absolutely terrible - green grass farps in the desert - or are you not bothered about Syria, Persian Gulf or Nevada maps for third party content creation or mission editors?

 

How can i get this message acrross it needs sorting - enough is enough.

[Tank50us]

13 hours ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

Bump given that we are now 8 months on , now running 2.7 and we still do not have a sand coloured farp.

 

Given that all Payware maps have desert can one of the devs spare literally 1 HOUR to sort this out please.

 

Its crazy that we are still waiting, its such a simple change.  

 

Looks absolutely terrible - green grass farps in the desert - or are you not bothered about Syria, Persian Gulf or Nevada maps for third party content creation or mission editors?

 

How can i get this message acrross it needs sorting - enough is enough.

 

Dude, chill. There's a lot of things in the game that could use a facelift as it is, and I'm sure it's on EDs to-do list, but given that the F-4 and Tu95 all still use the same models that LOMAC did, I don't think it's very high on the priority list right now. However, instead of griping at us about it, why not learn the 3D skills and remodel it yourself? I'm sure if some people threw some 3D assets at ED to implement into DCS, they might actually add them (especially since their artists are busy AF these days with other things). Just saying, instead of demanding that they bump something relatively minor to the front of the list, and ahead of the 123456789 things they have to do, why not help'em out and make something for them to use?

[Hawkeye_UK]

On 4/17/2021 at 8:23 AM, Tank50us said:

 

Dude, chill. There's a lot of things in the game that could use a facelift as it is, and I'm sure it's on EDs to-do list, but given that the F-4 and Tu95 all still use the same models that LOMAC did, I don't think it's very high on the priority list right now. However, instead of griping at us about it, why not learn the 3D skills and remodel it yourself? I'm sure if some people threw some 3D assets at ED to implement into DCS, they might actually add them (especially since their artists are busy AF these days with other things). Just saying, instead of demanding that they bump something relatively minor to the front of the list, and ahead of the 123456789 things they have to do, why not help'em out and make something for them to use?

 

I spent 20 years of my professional life avoiding an office and desk life, im not about to start now when others are far more capable.  Each to their own skillset.  I am chilled the reality being this is more of an issue for Mission Editors and designers and Multiplayer.  Won't be an issue for airquake and simple SP missions.  

 

For those of us that play in complex threat enviroments with human tac commanders PvP, on any payware map this is an issue.  New players need to have farp pads and the invisible ones are not always favourable.

 

Clearly if you did alot in ME and played the ground game you would appreciate why this is an issue, for such a short period of time, given that every map paywhere is desert it should have been done by now.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Hawkeye_UK

[notproplayer3]

Yeah, there's already livery options for some other static objects, why not for the FARP ? Seems logical to have that

[Hawkeye_UK]

Month later bump - can this be passed to a dev please?

 

Just highlighting its been 9 months since the initial posts - i would like to reinforce that every payware map has desert texture (WW2 maps excluded).  Can we have at least farp pads that fit into them please, even a sand coloured one (or concreate even would be more realistic) surely is not more than an hours work......

[Tank50us]

14 hours ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

Month later bump - can this be passed to a dev please?

 

Just highlighting its been 9 months since the initial posts - i would like to reinforce that every payware map has desert texture (WW2 maps excluded).  Can we have at least farp pads that fit into them please, even a sand coloured one (or concreate even would be more realistic) surely is not more than an hours work......

 

impatient much? You do know that they've got a Warbird, two Helicopters, and a freaking map, not to mention the support for all of their currently released projects. Give them some time. Who knows, maybe it's something that's already on their list, but lower on the priority list.

[Hawkeye_UK]

I think 9 months is hardly impatient to push for a response from ED.  Certainly not for an hours work (at very most).

[Tank50us]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

I think 9 months is hardly impatient to push for a response from ED.  Certainly not for an hours work (at very most).

 

ya know there's also the possibility that given they've been busy as heck with a whole bunch of things, they might be making a replacement for it.

 

But here's the thing, that "hour of work" has to come from somewhere, and it's not "just an hours work" either. It may take an hour to make the texture and put it on, but then you have to bring it into the game, check for errors, go back and fix those errors, and very quickly that hour turns into several. Several hours where that person is not working on something more important in their eyes. As I've said before, you're more than welcome to make a skin yourself and use it in your missions. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that. OR, use the 'invisible' FOB, and place your own items around it, and not use that FOB at all.

[sirrah]

10 hours ago, Tank50us said:

 

ya know there's also the possibility that given they've been busy as heck with a whole bunch of things, they might be making a replacement for it.

 

 Said the man who asks for extended damage models, refueling helpers, airfield ground ops and more extremely resource heavy requests... 

 

With all do respect, but the wish for a desert tan FARP is as old as when the PG map (SoH at the time) was just announced. (Possibly even before NTTR was released?)

Surely it can't be more than a couple of hours work to change the texture color of the current FARP object.

 

So yes, I have to kinda agree with @Hawkeye_UK on this one..

 

(Oh and the invisible FOB has it's own limitations)

Edited May 13, 2021 by sirrah

[Rudel_chw]

While I wait for ED to grant this wish, I use Suntsag Mod on my missions:

 

[Tank50us]

2 hours ago, sirrah said:

 Said the man who asks for extended damage models, refueling helpers, airfield ground ops and more extremely resource heavy requests...

 

Actually these are all things that I know will take a while to create, which is why I tend to go into detail about how I think they could be done. On top of that, I don't berate the devs for not doing what I ask for, because I understand that their plate is quite full right now, and that certain small projects are typically on the back burner.

 

The Airfield ops for example are actually something ED has on the docket as it is, it's just going to be a while before we see anything of it

[Hawkeye_UK]

23 hours ago, Tank50us said:

 

ya know there's also the possibility that given they've been busy as heck with a whole bunch of things, they might be making a replacement for it.

 

But here's the thing, that "hour of work" has to come from somewhere, and it's not "just an hours work" either. It may take an hour to make the texture and put it on, but then you have to bring it into the game, check for errors, go back and fix those errors, and very quickly that hour turns into several. Several hours where that person is not working on something more important in their eyes. As I've said before, you're more than welcome to make a skin yourself and use it in your missions. There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that. OR, use the 'invisible' FOB, and place your own items around it, and not use that FOB at all.

 

Tank i have an idea given you have nothing constructive to add to this debate and the fact you messaged back few hours after a month gap when i asked for an update leads me to wonder why are you following a post that you have no interest in.

 

Perhaps unfollow and focus on the issues that are important to you whilst not troll other requests, ones that for many people are very valid.  Even better start bug reporting to the volume that others on this chain are doing and contributing to OB.

 

Good bye, not being drawn into pointless discussions with you that are filling this wall with nonsense and clouding the issue - its an easy request, the texture colour change. The desert maps are what 4/5 years old now since NTTR time it was done.  End of conversation.

Edited May 14, 2021 by Hawkeye_UK

[Tank50us]

2 hours ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

 

Tank i have an idea given you have nothing constructive to add to this debate and the fact you messaged back few hours after a month gap when i asked for an update leads me to wonder why are you following a post that you have no interest in.

 

Perhaps unfollow and focus on the issues that are important to you whilst not troll other requests, ones that for many people are very valid.  Even better start bug reporting to the volume that others on this chain are doing and contributing to OB.

 

Good bye, not being drawn into pointless discussions with you that are filling this wall with nonsense and clouding the issue - its an easy request, the texture colour change. The desert maps are what 4/5 years old now since NTTR time it was done.  End of conversation.

 

 

Actually, I don't follow the topic. I've just been checking the forums a lot lately.

 

All that being said, I do find it funny how you claim that I don't offer anything constructive, but you're the one bent out of shape because a FARP doesn't have the right texture to it. I say be patient, I point out that it's something that isn't as high on EDs priority list given everything else they're working on, and everything that still needs to be worked on. For example the Tu95 looks great for a LOMAC model, but when it's next to an F-16C, you can see how dated it really is. And ya know what, I understand why it hasn't been touched, and I also understand that it is on the to-do list, given that the Su34 and Tu22M3 got model reworks.

 

And speaking of being constructive, as I'm planning to wade into the module world, I'm going to be making some new bombers that aren't in DCS, and see about re-modeling some of the existing ones. So while you're over here griping about a texture, I'll be over here making things for the game, instead of griping about ED not doing it for me.

[Tank50us]

7 minutes ago, RosyPlays said:

Bump.
Tired of waiting 
Also it shouldn't be that hard to repaint it to something else.

 

 

Geeze. With all the stuff ED is doing, surely you people can wait. Odds are the reason there isn't a 'desert' FOB yet, is because they're going to be replacing it. They're remodeling everything else after all. Give them some freaking time.

 

@NineLine@BIGNEWY could you guys chime in on this one? Throw these guys a bone on whether or not it's something being worked on? Not asking for screenshots, just wondering if you could share something that could calm these people down.

[kreisch]

I suggest using the invisible ones for now.

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[Tank50us]

3 minutes ago, RosyPlays said:

Still, they released Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria but they never released a desert themed FARP with them even if they have much work on them they can assign 1 person to simply repaint it in 1 day like how mod makers did it.

 

Because that's not how game development works. As I've explained before to the other guy, that hour has to come out of something else, and with all the other projects they have going, and all the things they need to fix, which item do you pick gets to have that hour taken away from? That hour could mean the difference between getting something out on time, and something being delayed.

 

In the meantime, build your own FOB using the 'invisible' FARP, and decorate it with all the items you wish to add, and stop acting like a spoiled child because the Dev teams are busy with things they consider far more important.

[draconus]

They're kind enough to keep it in game for mission compatibility. It's not realistic object so why even expect it developed further?

[Hawkeye_UK]

23 hours ago, draconus said:

They're kind enough to keep it in game for mission compatibility. It's not realistic object so why even expect it developed further?

 

Lol there are many aspects not realistic and I could start with air to ground weapon effects and lethality, or how some of the flight models don't meet real world performance and loiter capability but that's a whole other topic of which I'm not going down.