Polychop Simulations Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Dear community, With the end of the year fast approaching and still a lot of work to do, we have come to a point where we have to accept that a 2020 release of the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior module is no longer feasible. We want to release a module that we feel is feature complete, mission ready and a true tribute to the men and women in army aviation. That is not to say no extra’s will be added later on. Even though we’ve been crunching the past months, we simply aren’t there yet. We can imagine this is a disappointment to all who look forward to the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior module and we hope to make up for this with the polished release the module deserves. We’ll be working hard to get you the OH-58D Kiowa Warrior module as soon as possible. 10 Community Manager Account DrummerNL [TABLE][/TABLE] Discord - Facebook - Gazelle sitreps[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notproplayer3 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Hope everything works out for you all. I also dearly hope the oh58D really turns out to be a top tier quality DCS module. I wish you the best in achieving this goal. Full fidelity su27/mig29 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Thanks for the update @Polychop Simulations :thumbup: and fwiw, I think you are making a good decision. It's better to surprise/blow away people upon release, than trying to mend disappointment System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghimien Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I have to admit my expectation has been cut short but it is what it is. Looking forward to a more robust release early next year I hope. All the best on your on the Kiowa. Sent from my H3223 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Thanks a lot for the update @Polychop Simulations and also thank you for not waiting untill the end of December with this news! :thumbup: Rather take the time to do it proper than to rush it :) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 OK Fair is fair. Thanks for the heads up and for the dedication to a quality product. Best of lucks and happy new Year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Thank You very much for the update,The KW will be Well Worth The Wait Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick50 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Thanks for the update @Polychop Simulations :thumbup: and fwiw, I think you are making a good decision. It's better to surprise/blow away people upon release, than trying to mend disappointment What he said! And thanks for the update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew8604 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 At the end of which month in 2021 would you say you can be 90% certain it will be released by? Even pad it out a month, if you want. That should then be a pretty good aim point we can look forward to? Of course, things can always come up and you get to that month and it isn't quite ready. But which month would you say? Could you say? Beyond that, is there a plan for the next project? Because, if the OH-58 comes out well, as I expect it will...you keep building them and I'll keep buying them! Westland Wessex HAS.1? Westland Sea King HAS.1? These would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotor633 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 It is a pity to hear that. But your decision is the right one. Please just don't rush. Just keep the community up to date. 1 ************************************** DCS World needs the Panavia Tornado! Really! ************************************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 It is a pity to hear that. But your decision is the right one. Please just don't rush. Just keep the community up to date. Very much this! :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qiou87 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Clear communication, respect of the community, and dedication to bringing out the best module you can make. That is all great. We'll keep on waiting, thank you for being upfront with us. AMD R7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3200MHz | RTX 4080S 16GB | Varjo Aero | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk3 + STECS + pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipoxiK Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think this is a great move fella's. Nothing worse then all the beta releases these days and having to deal with crashes and half functioning systems for months. It will be much better and well worth the wait to jump into a mission ready Helo. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dama Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/22/2020 at 3:25 PM, Qiou87 said: Clear communication, respect of the community, and dedication to bringing out the best module you can make. That is all great. We'll keep on waiting, thank you for being upfront with us. I second that statement wholeheartedly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focha Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I rather prefer you post pone the release of Kiowa and have it like it should behave than to have a disappointment like Gazelle's one. So, thanks for you hard work and continue with it. Regards. 1 ASUS N552VX | i7-6700HQ @ 2.59GHz | 16 GB DDR3 | NVIDIA GF GTX 950M 4 Gb | 250 Gb SSD | 1 Tb HD SATA II Backup | TIR4 | Microsoft S. FF 2+X52 Throttle+Saitek Pedals | Win 10 64 bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I agree with the above comments, release this helo when it is good enough .. I don't care if some advanced features came up later, but the basics should be functional. Wish you all the best and I will support your efforts by purchasing it as soon as it hits the store .. I only wish it doesn't appear at the same time as the Mi-24 or I will be hard pressed to purchase both Best regards. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappa Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Hey @Polychop Simulations what about an official update on the Kiowa? Don't wanna make you hurry, just keep in touch! 5 -- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 36° Stormo Virtuale - Italian Virtual Flight Community www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0NiN Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 14 hours ago, Kappa said: Hey @Polychop Simulations what about an official update on the Kiowa? Don't wanna make you hurry, just keep in touch! This is from December, but details some of what they're willing to disclose on progress: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabies Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) I’d be surprised if the new modules will be released prior to the new DCS world upcoming update. But, I have no understand about software development, so I’m probably wrong. Either way, I’m going to be right though Edited February 6, 2021 by Rabies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0NiN Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 So looking at here and on FB, it looks as if Polychop has gone radio silent for the last 3 weeks. I'm almost wondering if we're now in the home stretch and they've gotten the module to Bell QA and it's nearly there...? It would be oh so spectacular if they announce it's release before the end of Feb. Wishful thinking I know, but the quiet could be a really good thing, or a really bad thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) @R0NiN TL;DR: I wouldn't expect the KW to be released soon, although it's FM seems almost complete, there seems to be a lot of work required to "finalise" the module to a level Polychop are comfortable with. Detail: Polychop have said they are cautious when discussing WIP features as the DCS community can often react with unrealistic expectations or negativity (sometimes both at the same time), which in turn prevent/distract the dev's from actually working on the module (so they prefer to stay quite unless there is something to "show"). AFAIK • System wise they are working on adding the moving map, refining how the MFD menus work, RWR, AI co-pilot, etc. • Art wise they are adding/refining the 3D pilot/co-pilot models and external lights (WIP screenshots were shared 2 weeks ago). • Audio is WIP with some elements missing and others requiring re-recording/sampling. • A basic damage model has still to be added (it will be expanded after release). • The intention is to release as "complete" and bug free KW module as possible, so the dev's aren't "firefighting" to support both modules and time and resources are available to rework the Gazelle FM as promised. Although unrelated to the KW, the Gazelle FM was again heavily criticised on discord, necessitating the dev's to investigate (the player: flew inverted, engine died, auto-rotated while inverted, then normalised their orientation to complete an auto-rotation landing - using it as an example of an unrealistic FM). The dev's responded (as such criticism undermines the KW) at length, explaining how the KW's "hummingbird" FM compares to the Bell 407 in another sim, etc. and what the Gazelle FM does/does not model and what might change once it's reworked. While it's good to see the Gazelle getting attention and Polychop ensuring lessons learned are carried forward to the KW, such investigations (while necessary) do divert time and focus from the KW's development. When Polychop go "silent" I take it as a good sign they are free from community "drama" and able to focus on their personal lives and KW development - no more, no less. Edited February 13, 2021 by Ramsay 2 i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) I agree. Imo it's good that Polychop just seems to focus on the work at hand, instead of investing time/money on a community manager What could be considered as peculiar though, is getting the hype train going and, once it's properly up to speed, then go totally silent... Maybe they're going for a refreshing: "Surprise guys! It's finished" kind of release Edited February 13, 2021 by sirrah System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Did I say something wrong or strange? Why not just share your opinion instead of anonymously throwing in a "".... System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enduro14 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I suspect the module is in Bell’s hands and I believe most where expecting a drop in comm’s when that happened. Speculation on my part but that’s what I suspect. Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nima2014 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Just wanted to share this with you guys, just in case someone is not on FB.....was dropped on that Platform 2days ago. Edited February 16, 2021 by nima2014 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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