Europe Wishlist Thread

[bies]

This would be the most moody map possible. Nearly all combat planes developed after WWII were designed to fight on this specific theatre.

[SharkWizard]

The good things with the Falklands and Iceland is that they're fairly barren, I'm not sure that the mesh itself is the source of performance issues, more the number of objects.

 

Iceland does have more varied and I would say more complex terrain AFAIK, but that's really it, it's fairly sparse to my knowledge.

 

 

As for red aircraft on a GIUK gap map? No idea, SF2: NA had land based stuff operating out of airfields in the north-east, but to my knowledge they're not suitable for things like bombers.

 

But even so, we don't even have Cold War bombers to begin with, they're all fairly modern (well maybe apart from the Su-24M/MR and Tu-142).

 

But there's so many assets missing for 80s era stuff, both blue and red, especially for naval stuff.

 

I mean look at RAZBAM's lightning.... Yay, great a British jet (even if, erm, yeah) but kind of a misfit at the moment in DCS, because there's nothing it historically intercepts, everything is too modern.

 

Redfor can take off from Jan Mayen (1,6km) or they could use the runway at Egilsstaðir 1,8 km or Akureyri 2,4 km if they got to North East Iceland. Runways at Keflavík are only slightly longer at 3km each

 

[Northstar98]

 

Redfor can take off from Jan Mayen (1,6km) or they could use the runway at Egilsstaðir 1,8 km or Akureyri 2,4 km if they got to North East Iceland. Runways at Keflavík are only slightly longer at 3km each

 

Hmm, the first 2 seem a little short (in my testing fully-fuelled Tu-22M or Tu-95s struggle to get off the ground without running off the end of the Runway at Krymsk, which is 2.6km long according to the chart), I guess you can always take a fair bit of fuel out of them.

 

And even so, we're still missing assets to make such a map really worth while, even if it's one I would really love to see (mind you, that's not much different from current maps either :music_whistling:)...

 

[Baco]

The good thing about South Atlantic Map is that you have half the units you need for GIUK gap ;) Thanks to Razbam trying to give us a coherent set of assets ;)

[CarloVecchi]

A cold war middle Europe map would be very welcome!

[Archduke]

Oooooh yes, a 80s Germany map! Please!

I would get to accidentally drop some Mark84s on my High School.

 

But to be honest I doubt it would be feasible with a level of accuracy comparable to the other maps. Germany is (and was in the 80s) an extremely urbanised country. If this were to be modelled with any accuracy at all it would be an enormous undertaking.

[Knish]

+1

[dSAF_Murbi]

This would be absolutely awesome!

[notproplayer3]

I can only agree given I actually live in the rectangle you drew (near Payerne)

[Lokattn]

I am 100% in favor of making a Southern Baltic map. It's a very strategically important and interesting area.

[Volator]

On 5/26/2020 at 9:37 AM, Stratos said:

Heatblur was working on a map for the Viggen, right? what happened to that map?

 

I think the last word was they are not working on any map right now and don't have the intention to do so in the foreseeable future, yet they are not ruling it out completely. I think the exact words by Cobra were "Never say never." Can't find the thread anymore though.

 

Too bad for the Viggen, really. It deserves some Swedish airbases and countryside. Those russian airbases and the whole appeal of the Caucasus region with its soviet buildings and super-giant trees do it no justice at all.

 

 

Edited January 17, 2021 by Pilot Ike

[Vurbileron]

Hi, what about Aegean sea? 

Edited January 27, 2021 by Vurbileron

[Barbar]

 

This map would be a lot of fun with F-5A, Mirage F1, Century Series aircraft, A-7 and F-4's.

[Vurbileron]

3 ore fa, Barbar ha scritto:

 

This map would be a lot of fun with F-5A, Mirage F1, Century Series aircraft, A-7 and F-4's.

 

I was thinking more to an hipothetical conflict between Grece and Turkey, they are not so friendly to each other.

There are also two islands in this sea weel know by other players...

[Vurbileron]

I read now this post.

I don't think this sea map wil born

 

[bies]

 

Fulda Gap in 1980s all out war in Europe WARPAC vs NATO.

I've been watching this as a small kid and only later noticed how faithfully different weapon systems had been recreated, even details like i.e.

F-15 Eagle cockpit. And this was made in 1982.

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2021 by bies

[Silent Film]

Yeah, I just wanted to suggest Adriatic map.

[Duster]

Forget it ... ED prefers to put the "Mariana Islands" into play (which is absolutely USELESS) because it is now obvious to everyone that their graphics engine has heavy space limits, we should be content with small rings and sometimes even quite insignificant, it is more than a year ED promise Cyprus for Syria ... "Who will live, will see"

Edited February 14, 2021 by Duster

[Northstar98]

On 2/14/2021 at 10:09 AM, Duster said:

Forget it ... ED prefers to put the "Mariana Islands" into play (which is absolutely USELESS).

 

Disagree, it's not great for historical missions (have the airbases but not the targets or have the airbases but don't have the assets). But I've already got a few mission thought up that could be quite fun.

 

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because it is now obvious to everyone that their graphics engine has heavy space limits, we should be content with small rings and sometimes even quite insignificant, it is more than a year ED promise Cyprus for Syria ... "Who will live, will see"

 

While I would love the Adriatic/Balkans as well as a northern Central Germany, GIUK Gap and NATO Nothern Flank; the problem with the first 2 is they have a lot of populated and rich land area that needs to be detailed.

 

The reason for doing the Marianas is that ED are trialling new terrain technology IIRC, with very small islands, the work required is minimised - to the point that the map will come in 2 free variants, it's a less risky map for performance and testing while still giving us something new (definitely appreciate the change of scenery for a recent, modern map).

Edited February 15, 2021 by Northstar98

[Qiou87]

On 2/14/2021 at 11:09 AM, Duster said:

Forget it ... ED prefers to put the "Mariana Islands" into play (which is absolutely USELESS) because it is now obvious to everyone that their graphics engine has heavy space limits, we should be content with small rings and sometimes even quite insignificant, it is more than a year ED promise Cyprus for Syria ... "Who will live, will see"

 

Why are you mixing everything up? Ugra Media is the developer of Syria. They did not promise anything, when the map released last summer, they stated if sales were good enough they would consider to add Cyprus. This was not a promise, just a "hope" - which you can choose not to believe, that is fair.

 

Since then, later in 2020, they confirmed that they were in fact expanding the Syria map with Cyprus and more bases in Turkey as well. And we have been able to see Cyprus is already WIP because Wags flew over it in his last Hornet videos on Youtube. In DCS time I think this is actually very fast. ED also shared a screen of the final map area of Syria to show what we could expect from this expansion, especially all airports and such.

 

Call it what you want, but this final version of Syria is anything but small, it takes a while to fly through it. Same with the Persian gulf, you can fly for a while in a straight line.

 

It doesn't mean the technology is necessarily there to represent everything we hope/dream of in DCS, for sure. But I really don't see how your misleading statements are helping in any way here.

Edited February 16, 2021 by Qiou87

[JagHond]

Il 13/9/2019 at 13:31, Duster ha scritto:

Hello,

it would be interesting, a scenario of the era of the war of the Balkans, with the Adriatic sea for the aircraft carriers and a part of Italy, Aviano / Ghedi for example .. the Alps, and NATO airports that participated. Just think of the Bihac base under the mountain with the mig21 inside!

ED and people what do you think?

 

Ciao

I'd like to say: I'm in.

 

Of course, also because I'm living on the Adriatic side of Italy.

But I too - all the previous post have great and realistic points - have to be unfortunately most skeptical about the real will to conceive, far before than create, the Balkans theater.

Too bad besides that also here must be involved the 'usual' money, sales and the like reasons, even if it's always mandatory to be crystal clear about any aspect since the very first time. I can see it.

 

With best regards.

Edited February 20, 2021 by JagHond

[TheCabal]

Bumping the thread. It should not be forgotton and needs to be seen by others as well.

Stay safe!

[Xilon_x]

for balkans see this post:

 

[IcedVenom]

Instead of a Southern Baltic map, honestly it should be an Eastern Baltic map that encompasses the Baltic countries, Kaliningrad, Poland, Sweden and maybe a little bit of Finland.

Edited March 13, 2021 by IcedVenom

[IcedVenom]

Instead of a Southern Baltic map, honestly it should be an Eastern Baltic map that encompasses the Baltic countries, Kaliningrad, Poland, Sweden, and maybe a little bit of Finland. I really hope someone gets to work on it. I would much rather have Eastern Europe chosen as the next map that comes out after Marianas with the Baltic sea over Afghanistan or another desert map. Korea would be okay, so long as they do two versions. One being 1950's and another being after the war with the DMZ, but I would much rather sea Baltics over Korea to be honest.

Edited March 13, 2021 by IcedVenom