reported earlier 2.7 dynamic reflections

[FoxTwo]

The cockpit baked dynamic reflections look good however some materials are reflecting that probably shouldn't be; specifically the door behind the flight engineer's station there's a piece of cloth(?) in the door texture that's reflecting the rest of the cockpit. It's probably easier to just remove that bit of texture rather than model a new layer just for that cloth tbh.

[MadJiitensha]

+1
Cockpit floor, and cyclic shine way too much. 

[JanRalle]

The reflection also stutters and lags sometimes around, at least in VR.

Edited April 15, 2021 by JanRalle

[NightMan]

+1

[Lace]

Yep, looks terrible in 2.7.  Way too dark and like a can of furniture polish has exploded in the cockpit.

[some1]

Many parts in the cockpit have wrong texture/material properties, that make them mirror-like in 2.7.

 

Namely the floor, rear cabin wall, sticks, pedals, central console and roof escape hatch. 

[NineLine]

Hey guys can you give me some screenshots, maybe something has been changed internally but not seeing the same issues. If you are still seeing the issue, show me some examples, please and thank you.

[some1]

Yes, no changes here.

 

It may look okay-ish on a static screenshot, but not great in flight. 

 

Edited May 25, 2021 by some1

[Adrix]

+1

[Mnemonic]

Any update on the issue?

Most of the cockpit looks like glass (wall behind the pilot, the floor, sides of the central pedestal, cyclic stick), should be possible to just make them matt again?

Edited June 23, 2021 by Mnemonic

[Docsnuggles]

the mid-down-console reflects on the sides the upper instruments. whoever did this reflections (in nearly all modules) should fix it.

Edited August 6, 2021 by Docsnuggles

[Docsnuggles]

 

another reflection shot. and yes, the cockpit looks like someone likes glass & mirror...

Edited August 6, 2021 by Docsnuggles

[Rifter]

It's basically the same issue as with the shiny Huey fuselage textures:

Removing certain materials from the file cockpit_mi-8mt.edm.json partially solves the reflections. Example: Shiny floor can be solved by deleting the marked file entry:

Shiny appearance of pedals and other parts cannot be solved by editing the file though.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Rifter

[Snappy]

3 hours ago, Rifter said:

It's basically the same issue as with the shiny Huey fuselage textures:

Removing certain materials from the file cockpit_mi-8mt.edm.json partially solves the reflections. Example: Shiny floor can be solved by deleting the marked file entry:

Shiny appearance of pedals and other parts cannot be solved by editing the file though.

 

Yea, still would be nice if ED managed to fix this, if they can't fix the bugs on older modules it would be nice if they at least managed to fix the stuff they break later with their updates.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Snappy

[Rifter]

For some reason ED has an inhibition to touch the old Belsimtek helicopter moduls (geometry and texture wise). Several graphics/lightning issues are pending for years now. At some point I developed the delusional idea that ED has suffered from a data loss in the past and is not able to access their original 3dsmax data anymore and is therefore stuck with the old .edm files and is forced to solve all graphics issues as  laborious workarounds in the core program.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Rifter

[some1]

The problem here is with bad roughness maps. Everything painted black on the roughness map with have a glass finish in DCS. And there's a lot of stuff with black rouhness map in the Mi-8. 

[Boosterdog]

10 minutes ago, some1 said:

The problem here is with bad roughness maps. Everything painted black on the roughness map with have a glass finish in DCS. And there's a lot of stuff with black rouhness map in the Mi-8. 

Is that something that can be user fixed/edited and still pass IC?

Moreover, is that something ED could fix in a minute but havent? 

[some1]

No idea.

But it's probably something that ED could fix in a few hours if they wanted to. 

[Rmnsvn]

@BIGNEWY @NineLine

any news on this issue? When can we expect a fix? The cockpit is ridiculously shiny and it’s been more than a year since it was reported. 
 

thanks in advance!

[Art-J]

19 hours ago, Vladinsky said:

I managed to cobble together a fix based on the previous posts, not great but it does the job.

Appears to be IC friendly too.

Mi8 reflection fix.rar 4.65 MB · 5 downloads

Good attempt. The only drawback I'm seeing is it makes letters on the central panel barely visible when they're covered by any shadow. Other than that, however, it's a workaround for us.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Art-J

[RealDCSpilot]

Roughness for cockpit textures is still off, did ED really not attempt to fix this for so long?

[SMH]

On 4/14/2021 at 5:43 PM, MadJiitensha said:

+1
Cockpit floor, and cyclic shine way too much. 

Finally fixed today after 3 years! (But are there any reflections left? I can't say I'm seeing any on the instrument glass or the canopy interior.)

Just checked again and I also see the cyclic grip has lost its shine. I actually liked the reflections on that, as they were plausible on shiny hard plastic. And yes, there doesn't appear to be any reflections at all in the Mi-8 cockpit now. Not on the dials, not on the canopy glass, nothing! 

I guess that's one way to fix it. Take us back to 2021! LOL!

Edited April 10, 2024 by SMH

[Tiger-II]

I noticed all reflections disappeared, too. A bit of an extreme over-reaction to the problem.