Update to AI aircraft designs

[CarbonFox]

A regular eye sore has been the horribly dated AI aircraft textures which have remained the same since the LOMAC days. The C-17, B-1, B-52, Su-17,, S-3, Mig-23, etc all come to mind. Not advocating for a high-fidelity upgrade but their textures certainly could use an update to make them appear less out of place in DCS, especially when up closer to them.

[Northstar98]

Something long requested though taking ages to actually see some progress the only aircraft I remember getting a serious update was the Su-34 which was some years ago.

[Killshot0597]

Almost all of the old heavies (B-1B, B-52H, Tu-95, Tu-142, Tu-160, IL-38), S-3, SH-60 were all in the 2021 roadmap to receive new 3d models. So hopefully they deliver soon. As I have noticed they have been releasing more ground assets this whole year. To add to that, so far none of the listed ground assets in the 2021 roadmap have actually received new 3d models yet.

[5ephir0th]

I don´t know how ED has the time to model four or five variations of SuperCarrier class but not to model a new S-3 or SH-60...

[Furiz]

2 hours ago, 5ephir0th said:

I don´t know how ED has the time to model four or five variations of SuperCarrier class but not to model a new S-3 or SH-60...

 

Money:P

 

I agree with the OP, we could use updates to those models.

[razo+r]

3 hours ago, 5ephir0th said:

I don´t know how ED has the time to model four or five variations of SuperCarrier class but not to model a new S-3 or SH-60...

 

Don't worry, a S-3 is in the works, since a few years by now

[Worrazen]

Maybe the update is more of a serious upgrade and perhaps these AIs might come with better functionality and well excuse me, my memory, it was confirmed AIs will eventually get damage model ... so it's much more than just the textures, and that's the correct way to do it rather than something in-between quick.

 

SuperCarrier was meant to be as a paid module, while the AIs for the DCS World core probably won't come with a fee.

 

Even though, I've said I've would have directly supported these upgrade ATC/AI Functionality/AI Logisitcs/AI Graphics/CSAR efforts myself if necessary to speed it up, it's just that the majority probably wouldn't be too excited having to get paid update for upgrading DCS's what's considered core.

 

 

 

Edited August 25, 2021 by Worrazen

[Aarnoman]

I think ED could learn from the mantra "don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough". As it stands, based on the white paper a few months ago the requirements they have set themselves for new AI models is so ridiculously high it is no wonder a single model seems to take a month to develop.

 

In my opinions they would benefit from loosening this slightly - as much as I like the quality of models, I would be much happier with half the quality but twice the volume of models released.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

I'd settle for updated AI flight modeling. Though, it's weird that something as iconic as the Bear has been left untouched.

[Killshot0597]

23 minutes ago, Aarnoman said:

as much as I like the quality of models, I would be much happier with half the quality but twice the volume of models released.

Only problem with this is the fact that once everything is up to "half the quality" ED would now have to start-over and make brand new 3d models again to update them to a more modern standard. I can see what they are doing might be more time consuming but in a way future proofs their work. Half quality 3d models only solve the problem temporarily. 

Also I notice that ED seems to like releasing new 3d models in batches so fingers crossed ED releases them all in 1 batch. Though I see they usually release about 3-4 refurbished models + 1 brand new ground unit. 

[upyr1]

On 8/24/2021 at 9:14 AM, CarbonFox said:

A regular eye sore has been the horribly dated AI aircraft textures which have remained the same since the LOMAC days. The C-17, B-1, B-52, Su-17,, S-3, Mig-23, etc all come to mind. Not advocating for a high-fidelity upgrade but their textures certainly could use an update to make them appear less out of place in DCS, especially when up closer to them.

If we don't get a high-fidelity upgrade, what is the point? 

[Silver_Dragon]

I recompilate all "horrible" LOMAC / FC 3D models on that post, for info and help proposes.... and yes, I need update and "continue" adding units...........

 

Edited August 29, 2021 by Silver_Dragon

[sirrah]

I was adding an AI CH-47D to one of my missions yesterday and got kinda surprised on how good/detailed it looked.

 

Did ED silently improve this 3D model recently, or have I just missed this before?

[Tank50us]

On 8/24/2021 at 10:51 AM, KIllshot0597 said:

Almost all of the old heavies (B-1B, B-52H, Tu-95, Tu-142, Tu-160, IL-38), S-3, SH-60 were all in the 2021 roadmap to receive new 3d models. So hopefully they deliver soon. As I have noticed they have been releasing more ground assets this whole year. To add to that, so far none of the listed ground assets in the 2021 roadmap have actually received new 3d models yet.

 

Easy there, 2021 ain't over yet. I smell something big is brewing.