correct as-is ILS in manual mode

[ivo]

hi everyone, F-18 has 20 preset channels for ILS how can I see the preset frequency for each channel?  also I tried to manually set the channel 111,50 but it always gives an error, how do you manually enter the ILS of the land bases?

bye

[Recluse]

You can't.   ILS is not implemented in the F/A-18C only ICLS.

[speed-of-heat]

The ILS in the F-18 is really a ICLS, and not compatible with land based ILS

Edited December 7, 2021 by speed-of-heat

[ivo]

ok thank for your support.

 

bye

[Spooky OS]

Shame there is not a land based version for all the export partners, implemented like TDC slew or Afterburner detent

Edited December 8, 2021 by Spooky OS

[speed-of-heat]

I think in the real world you can put a portable ICLS at a field , and if you search there are  some in game mods to allow it

[Foka]

4 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I think in the real world you can put a portable ICLS at a field , and if you search there are  some in game mods to allow it

There is no such thing as "portable ILS". Airbases where Navy Hornets land/operate they have ICLS installed on land. But installation ILS/ICLS is a long complicated process with dozens of tests and tuning. You can't just drive a truck on the base and set it up.

[drPhibes]

27 minutes ago, Foka said:

There is no such thing as "portable ILS". Airbases where Navy Hornets land/operate they have ICLS installed on land. But installation ILS/ICLS is a long complicated process with dozens of tests and tuning. You can't just drive a truck on the base and set it up.

Sorry to be the "ackchyually" guy, but you are wrong. You should read up on the USAF Deployable ILS system. Long story short: In 2011 Northrop Grumman was given a contract for the development of a deployable ILS  system that could fit in a C-130, and be deployed within a few days. Then the project was cancelled due to budget cuts, and then given to Thales/Wilcox a few years later.

Edited December 8, 2021 by drPhibes

[Foka]

Thanks for the info, didn't know about D-ILS, but...

As I did some digging, first units&training where delivered in 2019. In 2021 it's still cosidered a new system and is introduced to new parts of US military.

As we know DCS's newest modules are based on planes from years 2000-2010. So still D-ILS wouldn't be correct for DCS.

PS And still this is D-ILS, not D-ICLS, and US Hornets doesn't have ILS.
PS2 IMHO ED should implement canadian Hornets (we have liveries) with option to choose in mission editor to use ILS or ICLS. It shouldn't be to much effort.

[Weasel]

Maybe when we have luck:
 

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Hi guys, a few notes:

 

1- To be an authentic USN Hornet, we have no plans for ILS, only ICLS.

2- Doing in IFR approach using an offset TCN or placing a wypt on the runway threshold is quite easy. I'll try to do an academic video of this.

3- Later, when resources allow, we'll see about adding an ICLS ground station option.

 

[drPhibes]

On 12/9/2021 at 12:26 AM, Foka said:

PS And still this is D-ILS, not D-ICLS, and US Hornets doesn't have ILS.

 

AN/TPN-22 = deployable PAR with ACLS/ICLS.

[Swift.]

On 12/8/2021 at 11:26 PM, Foka said:

PS2 IMHO ED should implement canadian Hornets (we have liveries) with option to choose in mission editor to use ILS or ICLS. It shouldn't be to much effort.

There's more to CF-188 than just ILS Vs ICLS. It would take a lot of work to make one from the other.

Also afaik the newest modules in DCS are more like ~2015 range. Harrier I know is at least 2012, probably several years later. Hog is 2012+ aswell

[Northstar98]

It sounds like the easier solution is to have something like the AN/TPN-22, and then have an 'activate ICLS' command, exactly like ship, aircraft and the TTS 3030 TACAN, and then we can have land based ICLS on the Hornet.

The same can be said for RSBN/PRMG.

[Weasel]

Maybe we will have to wait for a F/A-18C Hornet 2 for a proper ILS implementation

[Northstar98]

30 minutes ago, Weasel said:

Maybe we will have to wait for a F/A-18C Hornet 2 for a proper ILS implementation

I mean, the Hornet itself is fine, it's missing assets that are the issue.

[IvanK]

RAAF FA18A from the last century circa 1985 VOR/ILS/DME options down the Left hand side of the HI

Edited December 11, 2021 by IvanK

[Bunny Clark]

1 hour ago, IvanK said:

RAAF FA18A from the last century circa 1985 VOR/ILS/DME options down the Left hand side of the HI

I think every export version of the Hornet has ILS and VOR capability and only the US version is limited to ICLS. Which makes sense, seeing as we're the only ones that fly them off carriers. 

[IvanK]

Well the A-D versions I know for sure that had VOR/DME/ILS options are RAAF,RCAF,Blue Angeles,Swiss,Spanish,Finnish

[cjladd11]

You guys have to remember what they’re modeling. A Lot 20 US Navy aircraft. Boeing, under the contract, only made 20 which were produced for the USN(10) and another 10 for the RCAF.

As a Avionics maintainer with experience on both, I can affirmatively point out that yes, Navy Hornets only had ICLS systems installed (only ability to use channels and not frequencies). There is a possibility of swapping out the system for a ILS (we do this with our Growlers that do not deploy to the boat and of course the Blue Angels as they were former frontline Super Hornets) but only under specific circumstances. It’s not an everyday or easy thing to do. Different boxes, different antenna (different waveforms etc) and of course testing to make sure everything works.

RCAF aircraft had the ILS system installed and different software to use frequency capability and selection options that are shown in the above posts with the AMPCD. Every export customer had their own software build depending on their negotiated contracts.


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[Hollister56]

Great explanation.  I'm just learning the F-18C, so this info was very helpful.