Announcing the F-4 Phantom for DCS World!

[Max Thunder]

I am very interested when we get more infos about the F4 such as development pictures. If it is planed to release it this year there should be a lot of work in progress which Heatblur could show us. 

Edited February 12, 2022 by Max Thunder

[DN308]

The Phantom is an instant buy

A big thank you to Heatblur

[NoodI]

My average pc wont be able to run this in vr D;

 

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

On 2/3/2022 at 5:16 PM, Razor68 said:

You forgot the Mig 19

With the exception of the PLAAF, I think everyone forgot about the MiG-19.

[Hummingbird]

On 2/1/2022 at 6:01 PM, SgtPappy said:

Another thing I'm not sure of is the F-4E block 35 graphs. The hard wing F-4E plots I have show a significant decrease in STR compared to the slatted F-4E but these ones in your post show a slight advantage. Perhaps it is data extrapolated linearly by simply decreasing the weight from the 1-F4E-1 manual to emulate slatted Block 35 performance? 

 

Yes, the manuals we've been looking at definitely show a clear advantage to the slatted block 50 over the hard wing block 35 in terms of both STR & ITR. That was also the purpose of the "agile eagle" program which introduced the slats after all, i.e. to enhance the maneuverability of the F-4.  

 

[G.J.S]

6 hours ago, Hummingbird said:

 

Yes, the manuals we've been looking at definitely show a clear advantage to the slatted block 50 over the hard wing block 35 in terms of both STR & ITR. That was also the purpose of the "agile eagle" program which introduced the slats after all, i.e. to enhance the maneuverability of the F-4.  

 

Agile Eagle was to investigate whether slats of varying configurations would be beneficial to the embryonic F-15, as it turned out the F-15 didn’t need slats at all, so the beneficiary was the Phantom - on which several slat types were tested.

[Hummingbird]

3 hours ago, G.J.S said:

Agile Eagle was to investigate whether slats of varying configurations would be beneficial to the embryonic F-15, as it turned out the F-15 didn’t need slats at all, so the beneficiary was the Phantom - on which several slat types were tested.

 

Yes, my point is that the intention of equipping these devices was to increase maneuverability; which they also did, noticably so according to the available V-N and PS diagrams.

Edited March 13, 2022 by Hummingbird

[Robert31178]

I hate to be this guy, buuuut......

 

Do we know which late E we are getting?  Block 53??? (fingers crossed)

 

 

[Nexus-6]

12 hours ago, Robert31178 said:

I hate to be this guy, buuuut......

 

Do we know which late E we are getting?  Block 53??? (fingers crossed)

 

 

They haven't announced which Block the later variant will be.  We only know that we're getting a Block 36-45, and a DMAS version.

 

 

[Mike Force Team]

Any new updates on the F-4E phantom?  We have not received any new updates. 

MFT

[Rick50]

On 3/31/2022 at 3:48 PM, Nexus-6 said:

They haven't announced which Block the later variant will be.  

 

It's possible they might not have actually made a final decision yet. 

[Mike Force Team]

Will we be able to fly the F-4 in the south Atlantic map when it is available?

MFT

[SgtPappy]

1 hour ago, Mike Force Team said:

Will we be able to fly the F-4 in the south Atlantic map when it is available?

MFT

You already made a thread regarding this question. As with any other module, the F-4 be useable in every map. 

Perhaps you are trying to ask something else that I am not understanding.

[Cobra847]

Hey everyone,

Don't expect to hear much, if at all, until we actually "unveil" the Phantom. 
While this may seem somewhat strange - it was always our intent to not announce the phantom until our unveiling later this year; but the high volume of requests and interest kind of precipitated the need for an announcement trailer ahead of time.

As an additional compounding factor, Russias' invasion of Ukraine has impacted us severely, and this will have an outsized impact on our time availability for updates before we're fully ready.

Thanks for all of the wonderful interest and support! We won't let you down.

Edited April 6, 2022 by Cobra847

[_BringTheReign_]

1 hour ago, Cobra847 said:

Thanks for all of the wonderful interest and support!

Thank you for the heads up and for setting expectations. Looking forward to the unveiling whenever it comes. Your passion shines through everything you folks do. Thoughts with all of you and may this insanity end soon. 

[Torbernite]

Sorry to hear that. I don't know that before. Do you have any staff in Ukraine, Russia or Belarus, or are you actually suffering from other affects of the war, sanction and confrontation? I hope you could have a safe and free condition for your work in the turmoil.

[Dragon1-1]

I hope you guys stay safe. I'm preordering the Phantom for sure, not that I wasn't going to before (you can't listen to Dick Jonas as much as I do and not become at least a bit of a phanatic ). 

[Mike Force Team]

Thank you for the update. We send our prayers and positive thoughts to the developers' families. We pray for a peaceful outcome.

MFT

[HEXO]

On 3/31/2022 at 12:17 PM, Robert31178 said:

I hate to be this guy, buuuut......

 

Do we know which late E we are getting?  Block 53??? (fingers crossed)

 

 

DMAS version is blocks 48 to 65

[Robert31178]

Fingers crossed for at least a 53!! Thank you for the responses everyone and especially Cobra. You guys rock over there at HB!! So happy it is you guys doing the module. I would have trusted BST to do at least as good a job as their Sabre, but the Viggen and Tomcat have both been homeruns and groundbreakers. Can't wait to see this module!!

[SgtPappy]

40 minutes ago, Robert31178 said:

Fingers crossed for at least a 53!! Thank you for the responses everyone and especially Cobra. You guys rock over there at HB!! So happy it is you guys doing the module. I would have trusted BST to do at least as good a job as their Sabre, but the Viggen and Tomcat have both been homeruns and groundbreakers. Can't wait to see this module!!

Just curious, what is it specifically about the block 53 that you're wanting?

[Yannick Pancake]

IIRC they added the AGM 65 and some other fancy stuffin 53.

 

But I if understood the faq right, we get 65's and in general some updates that where retro fitted into older birds.

[SgtPappy]

21 hours ago, Yannick Pancake said:

IIRC they added the AGM 65 and some other fancy stuffin 53.

 

But I if understood the faq right, we get 65's and in general some updates that where retro fitted into older birds.

That's what I'm thinking as well. HB stated the earlier block that's coming out will have DSCG, and a bunch of other retrofits from 1974 and earlier so there's a good chance it will have Mavs.

The later, DMAS bird will have TISEO, probably the AAQ radar mode, and other goodies.

[Tom Kazansky]

Q: What variants will the Heatblur F-4 Phantom include?
A: The first release will be DCS: F-4E, the iconic land based variant of the Phantom. We will be launching two variants of the -E; a “classic era” F-4E (blocks 36-45 with updates retrofitted in 1974 and before, including new slats, DSCG and AGM-65) as well as an upgraded (DMAS) version of the aircraft in one package.

[_BringTheReign_]

I really appreciate the split between earlier and later versions, it allows for more variety in mission planning