ah-1 cobra

[diveplane]

anyone doing this beautiful helo?

 

[Mars Exulte]

It's supposedly on ED's to-do list after the Apache and BS3 are complete. Last I heard when all that was being debated, they were talking about an AH-1S

[StreakerSix]

I was going to make a post about them making the AH-1 also.... However, I feel they don't need nor does anyone else "want" basically another Apache. So here are my thoughts to the Devs:

A) Make a model of the AH-1G Huey Cobra.

B) Use the flight model of the Huey with minor tweaks, as the AH-1G is slightly more maneuverable and lighter, if I remember correctly.

C) Use the AI Co-Pilot from the Huey and give the CPG (Front Seater) the ability to take over the gun in MP game play. SP will be AI CPG only.

D) Rocket Pods are only used by the Pilot, as with the Huey Module that already exists.

Basically, it is nice to have the simplified systems in some of the Airframes, as many of the airframes become far too complicated to operate/learn.

Furthermore, there are quite a few "Cold War" type servers that need these simplified airframes as to keep the balance better in-game. Also, they tend to be amongst the most popular servers for people to play in.

Biggest thing.... SAVES A TON OF DEVELOPMENT TIME! The AH-1G is based off the UH-1H, therefore using an already in-game and popular asset with slight tweaks will save hundreds of hours of unnecessary development time. 

I for one own the UH1, Mi8, and AH64.... This is what I would like to see come in game.... The AH-1G, nicely simplified Attack Helicopter for the Novice players to learn in and the Veteran players a great attack airframe without having to take many extra hours to learn to fly and be good with it....  

[Mars Exulte]

They're not going to do that  They'll either do it exactly the same way they do everything else or not at all.

[StreakerSix]

I know.... Why do things that make sense, save development time and create an additional quick source of revenue without having to recreate the wheel?

[CarbonFox]

I'd rather have the more beastly AH-1W Super Cobra over the G.

[trevoC]

Oh my, Cobra on Marianas (or Vietnam... come on ED), that would be awesome.

[Evoman]

On 10/22/2022 at 4:48 PM, CarbonFox said:

I'd rather have the more beastly AH-1W Super Cobra over the G.

Sure it would be cool to have something more beastly like everything but you have to also take into account of the low intensity battle fields that modern AH-1W have faced. You can't compare that to the butt clenching action that AH-1G Cobras faced in Vietnam. I bet that once a Vietnam map arrives and devoted fans of that era start to make missions to really make the place come alive like it used to be back then that it will be one of the most popular servers to fly in if your looking for high intensity action.

 

 

[Mars Exulte]

On 10/22/2022 at 1:45 AM, StreakerSix said:

I know.... Why do things that make sense, save development time and create an additional quick source of revenue without having to recreate the wheel?

 War Thunder is down the hall on the left. You'll know you are getting close when you hear people shouting ''*insert* bias is OP''. They try not to copy paste flight models around here.

[WinterH]

On 10/24/2022 at 4:45 PM, Evoman said:

modern AH-1W have faced

AH-1W existed since 80s though. And I think, pretty firmly, that 80s or early 90s AH-1W and/or same vintage AH-1F is by far the best fit. Can fit a wide range of time periods, great mix of old-school and modern, fits what I and many others tihnk of as the best period for DCS, pretty much a direct counterpart/play-mate for Mi-24P we have.

AH-1G would be a HUGE shame. It's literally almost UH-1 but slim. You can do pretty much the same posterior-clenching in that just fine  Equally, a later 90s, or 2000s, or even beyond AH-1W or Z would be at least as much of a great shame, it can only fit modern shenanigans, and would be "Longbow Apache but with slightly different flavor".

Army Cobras like F would probably be the easier module to make by ED themselves, considering it would have more directly shared stuff with our existing UH-1H. I think it would also be more representative of worldwide Cobra service, as some description of single engine Cobra was/is being used by a lot of countries, while the twin engine ones were only a few in addition to USMC. On the other hand, 80s-90s W would be more interesting from capabilities point of view, with being able to use either TOWs or Hellfires at mission maker's discreation, and I believe also some Marine Cobra specials like Sidewinders and Sidearms, and of course also the twin engine performance.

[Swift.]

You know I'd almost prefer an early AH-1 over a Whisky. Simply because I think there is more chance of them doing a Zulu if there isn't already a whisky. And it would be such a shame to lose such a fantastically interesting airframe just because we wanted to commonise across half a century of development.

Other thing about the Zulu btw, identical (aside from the TSS Vs NTS) avionics to a UH-1Y. So one might reasonably hope for a UH-1H upgrade into the UH-1Y and then an immediate flop back into AH-1Z for a slightly reduced workload.

 

FWIW, calling Zulu a 'longbow Apache with a slightly different flavour' could be considered equivalent to calling F-16 a 'hog with a slightly different flavour', when clearly once you know about both airframes the difference between them is stark and substantial. 

[StreakerSix]

On 11/3/2022 at 9:01 PM, Mars Exulte said:

 War Thunder is down the hall on the left. You'll know you are getting close when you hear people shouting ''*insert* bias is OP''. They try not to copy paste flight models around here.

The Ah-1G Cobra is VERY close to a real life copy paste of the UH-1H... They strive for realism, right?

 

Edited March 6, 2023 by StreakerSix
Responded to the incorrect quote.

[bies]

Zulu is way more modern and way more classified than AH-64D, only in 2011 first unit achieved initial readines. It will never be in DCS. In the interview Zulu pilot didn't even want to talk about most systems.

All others like "G" from Vietnam war or "W" from Fulda Gap would be possible in DCS.

Edited March 7, 2023 by bies

[Gunfreak]

52 minutes ago, bies said:

Zulu is way more modern and way more classified than AH-64D, only in 2011 first unit achieved initial readines. It will never be in DCS. In the interview Zulu pilot didn't even want to talk about most systems.

All others like "G" from Vietnam war or "W" from Fulda Gap would be possible in DCS.

 

I would rather have the G anyway. DCS is at the end of the line when it comes to modern aircraft, we're stuck at mid 2000s era, and doesn't look like we'll get passed that as long as DCS is DCS.

Better to look back, make more aircrafts that fit into the 50s to 90s period.

[hannibal]

Any cobra that can fight tanks..yes

[ReRa]

Waiting , Cobra ..cool and same as above anything that can fight tanks.  My best T version.

[Merro]

INTRODUCTION TO AH-1G HUEY COBRA HELICOPTER w/ MINIGUN & ROCKET ...

Huey Cobra

I'd be happy with the original model, looks fantastic 

[Kev2go]

If its not a AH1W "whiskey" cobra. i would hope to at least have the AH1F cobra. late in thier life you had them refitted with more capable APR39A v1 RWR, and GPS recievier.

Like seen in this national guard AH1  cobra footage recorded in 2001. The GPS bolted into the left side of the dashboard is referenced in the 1996 revision of the Ah1S manual and the 2001 Ah1F publication.

 

 

Edited November 25, 2024 by Kev2go

[Bob_Petuss]

I dream of seeing the AH-1W, because here...)