Deka Simulations announces the DCS: J-8II for DCS World!

[F-2]

28 minutes ago, uboats said:

Hey man thanks either way for answering

[Schmidtfire]

Since the J-8II is an interceptor. Does it feature systems and steering cues for GCI?

Also interesting to know, did the Peace Pearl have IFF interrogator?

[Silver_Dragon]

On 2/13/2023 at 12:25 AM, MiG21bisFishbedL said:

Damage value of 27? I didn't know the Soviets had health bars.

OT: On Harpoon V, the damage has "abstracted"...

[Silver_Dragon]

24 minutes ago, Schmidtfire said:

Since the J-8II is an interceptor. Does it feature systems and steering cues for GCI?

Also interesting to know, did the Peace Pearl have IFF interrogator?

By now the CGI PLAAF system has unkonow, but on the YJN-901/902/903 of 97, a "Link 11 copy" will be active, or the HN-900 from 88.

[Bananabrai]

On 2/11/2023 at 10:34 PM, Stackup said:

ED planned to make the earliest MiG-29 variant but that fell through due to lack of cooperation from the Russian government

Really? Never read an official statement that is was canceled.

[Stratos]

For me is far from clear what the Peace Pearl program added and what we will get on the module, hope Deka releases more info on cockpit features, like HUD, MFD, RWR include...

[Morri]

As per Uboats they are working on some docs for that

9 minutes ago, Stratos said:

For me is far from clear what the Peace Pearl program added and what we will get on the module, hope Deka releases more info on cockpit features, like HUD, MFD, RWR include...

19 hours ago, uboats said:

We are also preparing a detailed intro to 8PP and Q&A, as well as loadout table, and will post it once ready.

[Bananabrai]

On 2/13/2023 at 11:49 AM, Falconeer said:

How is this question still not clear?

Are we not getting a J-8II as well?

Everybody talks about the J-8PP but I understood we get this after the J-8II (which is the original designation of the J-8B, isn't it?)
Sorry if I missed something, only read the topic starting from page 6 or 7, too much BS everywhere, but doesn't the B has Chinese avionics?

[Falconeer]

6 minutes ago, Bananabrai said:

Are we not getting a J-8II as well?

Everybody talks about the J-8PP but I understood we get this after the J-8II (which is the original designation of the J-8B, isn't it?)
Sorry if I missed something, only read the topic starting from page 6 or 7, too much BS everywhere, but doesn't the B has Chinese avionics?

No, J-8II is AI only

 

[Skarp]

On 2/10/2023 at 1:08 PM, Midair said:

What's wrong with that? DCS is a flight simulator. If you want to reproduce high fidelity product why do you select a fictionnal aircraft NEVER produced? DCS is not War Thunder.

How is it fictional if it existed ? 

[uboats]

On 2/10/2023 at 8:48 PM, F-2 said:

Hey Uboats, are other AI aircraft previously announced for the asset pack still on the table? With the J-8F, J-10a, and J-15 it’s quite robust.

All on hold, we found many of our models stolen and sold online, so we paused all wip AI.

[gzj3401]

 

Are we not getting a J-8II as well?

Everybody talks about the J-8PP but I understood we get this after the J-8II (which is the original designation of the J-8B, isn't it?)
Sorry if I missed something, only read the topic starting from page 6 or 7, too much BS everywhere, but doesn't the B has Chinese avionics?

PP is a variant of J-8II, so this variant of J-8 is called J-8PP

[F-2]

not typically a fan of this sort of video but good footage!

[carss]

On 2/12/2023 at 8:58 PM, NineLine said:

Don't count on older version being more available, even with Russian military they do not allow the development of even older platforms. I have always found Deka to strive to show of the Chinese air force the best they could, this is not a short cut on their part of lack of effort, I believe they would do whatever they could be allowed to do. 

Yes, I fully understand

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

3 hours ago, F-2 said:

not typically a fan of this sort of video but good footage!

The J-8 is really growing on me. I can't wait to conduct intercepts.

[Naudiz]

Very curious if Deka's interested in expanding the J-8 after the Peace Pearl is complete. Moving into other J-8 variants and using the PP as a baseline could be awesome, though it may be the case that it isn't possible at all.

I know uboats wasn't keen to answer such a question last I asked, but it is still fun to speculate.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

5 hours ago, Naudiz said:

Very curious if Deka's interested in expanding the J-8 after the Peace Pearl is complete. Moving into other J-8 variants and using the PP as a baseline could be awesome, though it may be the case that it isn't possible at all.

I know uboats wasn't keen to answer such a question last I asked, but it is still fun to speculate.

I'd imagine they would be. It's just a matter of getting the right people to play ball, which is why we're getting the Peace Pearl bird instead of one with domestic kit.

We'll just have to wait.

[Bananabrai]

On 2/14/2023 at 5:11 PM, Falconeer said:

No, J-8II is AI only

 

Then I completely misunderstood the announcement.

Edit: disregard
Thought it says we get a -8II and later a PP variant, didn't know its about sub variants and whatever.
On wikipedia it looked like II is its own proper variant. But we all know how accurate wiki is ^^

Edited February 16, 2023 by Bananabrai

[FlankerFan35]

2 hours ago, Bananabrai said:

Then I completely misunderstood the announcement.

Edit: disregard
Thought it says we get a -8II and later a PP variant, didn't know its about sub variants and whatever.
On wikipedia it looked like II is its own proper variant. But we all know how accurate wiki is ^^

 

J-8II represents the drastic redesign of some features of the J-8 that distinguish it from J-8I.

Here is the J-8I Finback-A airframe.



And here is the J-8II Finback-B airframe, this picture is actually of one of the J-8IIs that vistied the US for the Peace Pearl (PP) Program.

So to clarify, the J-8PP isn't truly a separate variant from the J-8II but a modified J-8II. The J-8B, 8PP, B Block 2, 8C, 8D, 8F, 8H, JZ-8F, F-8B and F-8IIM all belong to the J-8II family line . The J-8PP we are getting represents an early J-8II model with later models getting newer radars and weapons such as the PL-12 or reconnaissance equipment. Hopefully this helps clear things up for you and others  

As a sidenote, I'm hoping the AI variant gets PL-12s  

Edited February 16, 2023 by FlankerFan35

[Stratos]

Is just two hardpoints on the wings? any wet hardpoint there?

[FlankerFan35]

16 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Is just two hardpoints on the wings? any wet hardpoint there?

I believe there should be 3HP per wing and some belly points for tanks/bombs

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, FlankerFan35 said:

I believe there should be 3HP per wing and some belly points for tanks/bombs

Will love that, specially If we can carry some fuel tanks and A-G ordinance there.

[Wyvern]

1 hour ago, Stratos said:

Will love that, specially If we can carry some fuel tanks and A-G ordinance there.

Most likely only Bombs and Rockets like a flanker

[PLAAF]

15 minutes ago, Wyvern said:

Most likely only Bombs and Rockets like a flanker

Yep, only from the G variant, J-8II became a true multirole fighter. But then again, I could be wrong since I know little about the Peace Pearl project.

[Stratos]

It seems I will need to wait DEKA to publish the feature list of the PP including the loadout scheme for all the HP.