Why open beta?

[atercygnus]

I`m heavily frustrated f-15e is only avaliable for open beta DCS. I use stable one, no reason to deal with bugs, I prefer to wait a little and get a stable one.

Is it gonna change in nearest future?

[bfr]

Unlikely. As you noted yourself, squashing bugs can take time so you'll have the usual lag of at least a few weeks before the stable channel is updated. 

[LordOrion]

53 minutes ago, atercygnus said:

I`m heavily frustrated f-15e is only avaliable for open beta DCS. I use stable one, no reason to deal with bugs, I prefer to wait a little and get a stable one.

Is it gonna change in nearest future?

That's the usual practice: all new EA modules are always released on OB first.

Edited June 25, 2023 by LordOrion

[atercygnus]

Oh, so, it will be avaliable for stable version in several weeks or months. Great!

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

[Zahnatom]

1 minute ago, atercygnus said:

Oh, so, it will be avaliable for stable version in several weeks or months. Great!

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

small price to pay for the "latest and greatest"

[Emme]

vor 15 Minuten schrieb atercygnus:

Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

No it's not. DCS Beta is basically the "up 2 date" version of DCS and the majority of the community exclusively use the beta branch to play, because there are basically no downsides to use that branch. I can't remember ever using the stable of DCS and never had any game breaking bugs or other problems in the Beta.

 

So my advice would be to just hop over to the Beta and enjoy all the new content early.

[Beirut]

24 minutes ago, atercygnus said:

Oh, so, it will be avaliable for stable version in several weeks or months. Great!

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

 

I've been using beta since day one. Can't see why I wouldn't. I want my toys.

 

The only advantage I can see to stable is maybe some kind of MP thing. 

[Baldrick33]

1 hour ago, atercygnus said:

I`m heavily frustrated f-15e is only avaliable for open beta DCS. I use stable one, no reason to deal with bugs, I prefer to wait a little and get a stable one.

Is it gonna change in nearest future?

I think you answered the question why a new a new module goes into the open beta release first. It is a new build, new modules often require new updates to the core software. It is possible new content introduces bugs into the build affecting other content and performance. Also if you don’t want to deal with bugs the first version of new content may not be for you, let the open beta community deal with it before it is considered stable enough.

[Andy1966]

hi, you can update between stable and open beta easily using the command prompt or use Skatezillas updater utility. it's easy and takes only a few mins, it keeps common files and only updates what is needed, to keep only one install.

 

 

[pii]

2 hours ago, atercygnus said:

I`m heavily frustrated f-15e is only avaliable for open beta DCS. I use stable one, no reason to deal with bugs, I prefer to wait a little and get a stable one.

Is it gonna change in nearest future?

If you don't want bugs then you don't want open beta. Not sure what you're complaining about it's you that doesn't want the beta version so sit back and enjoy the wait for the stable version, and it will also still have bugs.

Basically, we want it sooner than 2015 or later and ED will sell it to us at a discount! 

[bfr]

2 hours ago, atercygnus said:

Oh, so, it will be avaliable for stable version in several weeks or months. Great!

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

No, Open Beta is for anyone and everyone and just really setting expectations that it may contain some bugs. If a show-stopper does occur (although the serious ones generally get patched ASAP) you can just roll back to an earlier Open Beta build (which will, at worst, be no older than stable).  If you want a (relatively) bug-free experience then you go with the stable branch. It has always been weeks/months behind Open Beta for entirely obvious reasons, so this really shouldn't come as any surprise.

Edited June 25, 2023 by bfr

[BIGNEWY]

3 hours ago, atercygnus said:

I`m heavily frustrated f-15e is only avaliable for open beta DCS. I use stable one, no reason to deal with bugs, I prefer to wait a little and get a stable one.

Is it gonna change in nearest future?

Hi, 

sorry you are frustrated, this is the normal patch cycle for any release, before we can patch the stable version we need to gather data and look for any issues that would create problems for the stable version. Newly released modules do state open beta is required initially on the store page.

The update for stable version is not just about one module but the whole of DCS so it does take some time, as soon as we are happy we will update stable version, but at this time I have no date to share. Please keep an eye on the patch status post below 
 

thanks

[Baldrick33]

5 hours ago, atercygnus said:

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

I have had both stable and openbeta installed for a couple of years, “just in case” openbeta is problematic. If you have the disk space it is easy to do and can copy the controls between versions. I haven’t used stable in all that time, it is just a contingency. Although there is always the risk, I would happily recommend openbeta.

[silverdevil]

6 hours ago, atercygnus said:

Oh, so, it will be avaliable for stable version in several weeks or months. Great!

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

in app development there is an alpha which is really early. then beta. lots of apps have a beta phase of say a week to see what happens when lots of players get into it. in DCS case their beta is continuous. it never gets out of beta. but yes. all the latest toys too. i personally do not care of the beta aspect. it is amazing that any of it works. i am a glass half full person.

[Fast Jet Performance]

My flight school uses Open Beta and we never have issues.

We have started flying F-15E, although not me personally - it is in the school maps and there's a lot of learning going on from the students.

www.fastjetperformance.com

[bfr]

14 hours ago, Baldrick33 said:

I have had both stable and openbeta installed for a couple of years, “just in case” openbeta is problematic. If you have the disk space it is easy to do and can copy the controls between versions. I haven’t used stable in all that time, it is just a contingency. Although there is always the risk, I would happily recommend openbeta.

Same. I have vague recollections of only once getting a 'show stopper' in an OB release where I rolled back a release and the problem was hot-fixed within a day or so anyway. Generally speaking OB is fine.

[Mr_Blastman]

20 hours ago, atercygnus said:

Oh, so, it will be avaliable for stable version in several weeks or months. Great!

I`m just mad lots of dcs players uses open beta as a workhorse for some reason I cannot understand. Beta is for testers, not for regular players, isn`t it?

The vast majority of multiplayer servers are open beta only.  You cannot see them in stable.

 

[QuiGon]

22 hours ago, atercygnus said:

I`m heavily frustrated f-15e is only avaliable for open beta DCS. I use stable one, no reason to deal with bugs,

Do you even understand what you're saying? You answered your own question: New modules will be buggy at the beginning, so they will not get released to the stable at the beginning, because they are buggy. Buggy stuff shouldn't be in the stable.

Edited June 26, 2023 by QuiGon

[Gunfreak]

The AI 15Es doesn't do ground attack, it either ignores the target completely or attacks it with guns, does that sound like something you want in stable?

[McCloud]

I feel your pain. 
 

im currently on open beta to try the 15 but my squad plays on stable. So, when it comes around to a certain day in that week, I have to move back to stable to play with the lads. It’s abit of a farce.