C-2 Greyhound model for naval missions.

[AegisFX]

It's a different version of the e2-d. Hopefully that means it wouldn't be the most complicated AI plane to add in for the naval environment 

[MAXsenna]

It's a different version of the e2-d. Hopefully that means it wouldn't be the most complicated AI plane to add in for the naval environment 

Yeah, it's a shame the Military Aircraft Mod (MAM) and Civil Aircraft Mod (CAM), are not included in the core.

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[Evoman]

In my opinion the C-2 Greyhound would make for some very interesting cargo missions because of its carrier ops capability more than the average fixed wing cargo aircraft. 

Here is one of the best C-2 documentaries I have seen of what it takes to train and be certified to fly the Greyhound.

 

Edited September 17, 2023 by Evoman

[Montes]

Es una pena que solo se piense en aviones de combate, muchos pilotos virtuales no quieren vivir la experiencia de guerra.

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, Montes said:

Es una pena que solo se piense en aviones de combate, muchos pilotos virtuales no quieren vivir la experiencia de guerra.

There are other flight sims for those virtual pilots, let DCS focus on combat flight simming.

[Silver_Dragon]

11 hours ago, Montes said:

Es una pena que solo se piense en aviones de combate, muchos pilotos virtuales no quieren vivir la experiencia de guerra.

DCS World es un simulador de combate... desde hace 15 años. Tanto ED como algunas 3rd parties han hecho aparatos civiles, pero no es su principal mercado y una de ellas está haciendo un aparato de transporte tactico, (C-130 por Airplane Simulation Company) pero centrado en el combate. Para operaciones civiles, ya hay otros simuladores. Recordemos que un C-2, se usa para el aprovisionamiento de combate de portaviones.

Hay una sección en español en el foro para hablar de este tema.

Edited September 11, 2023 by Silver_Dragon

[SkateZilla]

On 9/9/2023 at 3:38 AM, MAXsenna said:

Yeah, it's a shame the Military Aircraft Mod (MAM) and Civil Aircraft Mod (CAM), are not included in the core.

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ED cant just throw mods into the core for multiple reasons:

A. Licensing, most mods use models that acquired thru 3rd Party Sites that have strict License agreements.
B. Support, the Mod would need to be supported and the mod owner would have to have an agreement with ED to submit their work to ED to be included in each patch.
C. Trademark Licensing, ED would have to pay for any TMs included in the Mod as it would be part of a commercial product, as a free distributed mod, it does not.

There are a dozen or so more reasons, but those are the main 3.

[MAXsenna]

@SkateZilla
Absolutely, I worded myself badly. The reasons you state are the reasons for why "it is what it is", and I fully understand that. Hopefully some day we'll have an abundance of 100K+ assets in the core.

Cheers!

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[Evoman]

On 9/10/2023 at 9:11 PM, Rudel_chw said:

There are other flight sims for those virtual pilots, let DCS focus on combat flight simming.

The ironic thing is that DSC is not quite that realistic of a SIM without those non combat logistical military support aircraft that keep the combat aircraft fueled and maintained with a steady supply of spare parts.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Evoman

[Rudel_chw]

19 minutes ago, Evoman said:

The ironic thing is that DSC is not quite that realistic of a SIM without those non combat logistical military support aircraft …

well, certainly it is not a Logistics Simulator … which seems fine to me, as I use it as an Air Combat simulator  

[Evoman]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

well, certainly it is not a Logistics Simulator … which seems fine to me, as I use it as an Air Combat simulator  

That is true but DCS will have the C-130 coming in the not to distant future which will kick of the beginning of the Logistics Simulator portion. jaja

It will be very interesting to see how popular it will become and how much it will grow with plenty of Logistics mission sets that will follow from the community and new comers attracted to this new mission type.

[AegisFX]

16 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

well, certainly it is not a Logistics Simulator … which seems fine to me, as I use it as an Air Combat simulator  

Not to be "that guy", but one of the first things that happened in the most recent conflict this planet has been closed to was the destruction of one of the biggest logistics aircraft ever built. Blowing up, capturing, or cutting off warehouses, factories, depots, etc have been some of the most important missions to be undertaken in any conflict.

 

If you're one of the people begging for a dynamic campaign, then you know it's not very dynamic without moving all of the equipment.

[FlankerKiller]

17 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

well, certainly it is not a Logistics Simulator … which seems fine to me, as I use it as an Air Combat simulator  

They are literally overhauling the logistics part of DCS as we speak. The C-130J is inbound, and ED’s next module is a cargo chopper. The Dynamic campaign will probably be heavy on logistics. Like it or not this kind of thing is coming to DCS.

It’s a cool plane I’d buy it. 

[Gunfreak]

Just imagine proper logistics in a ww2 dynamic campaign, blowing up those ships and trains would actually serve a purpose.

[FlankerKiller]

15 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

Just imagine proper logistics in a ww2 dynamic campaign, blowing up those ships and trains would actually serve a purpose.

Be still my hart. 

[FlankerKiller]

Contrary to many’s opinions the main job of air power has often been the breaking of logistics trains, or support of them. Your enemy can’t fight without beans, bullets, bodies, and most importantly in the modern era fuel, and nether can you. CAS is flashy logistics wins wars. Also cargo ops are combat ops. 
 

also aircraft like this are likely to pull people from the civilian flight sim community to DCS. More players is always better. 

 

[Evoman]

6 hours ago, FlankerKiller said:

 

also aircraft like this are likely to pull people from the civilian flight sim community to DCS. More players is always better. 

 

This has also been my observation from many comments I have read else where. Some of which are by actual airline pilots. 

[Montes]

En 13/9/2023 a las 16:27, FlankerKiller dijo:

Contrariamente a las opiniones de muchos, el trabajo principal del poder aéreo a menudo ha sido romper los trenes logísticos o apoyarlos. Tu enemigo no puede luchar sin frijoles, balas, cuerpos y, lo más importante, combustible en la era moderna, y tú puedes. CAS es una logística llamativa que gana guerras. También las operaciones de carga son operaciones de combate.
 

también es probable que aviones como este atraigan a personas de la comunidad civil de simuladores de vuelo a DCS. Más jugadores siempre es mejor.

 

Eso es exactamente lo que quiero decir, en una guerra no se trata solo de disparar misiles.

[FlankerKiller]

8 minutes ago, Montes said:

Eso es exactamente lo que quiero decir, en una guerra no se trata solo de disparar misiles.

Vary true. Let’s hope ED gets a good logistics engine and dynamic campaign to reflect that. Sometimes I like to just fly. Granted mostly we will fly shorter missions. My understanding is the C2 is used for urgent transport to the carrier. I’m not sure if it’s equipped to go in country an do some of the more interesting things cargo aircraft do. Still flying logistics runs to keep a carrier armed and keep its birds in the air under all conditions would be fun from time to time. Now if it has EW and countermeasures then it could be a very interesting aircraft indeed. If not there is a 130 coming for that sort of thing. 

[Montes]

También volar E2 podría ser divertido, para muchos estar en el aire durante una hora mientras otros pelean puede tener sentido ya que esa hora sería útil para el equipo.