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OK, how do I activate DLSS or DLAA ? The option is greyed out and I can´t choose it.
Is it RTX 40xx series only ?
I have an RTX3090, just installed the latest driver to be sure...

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Just now, Eugel said:

OK, how do I activate DLSS or DLAA ? The option is greyed out and I can´t choose it.
Is it RTX 40xx series only ?
I have an RTX3090, just installed the latest driver to be sure...

Are you using the MT version?

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Art-J said:

@BIGNEWY Has MT become standard exec with 2.9? I'm asking, because even though I don't see it mentioned in patch notes, when game's launched from "normal" ST shortcut, the menu screen says "MT preview 2.9.xxxx".

On the other hand I can see both execs (in Bin and Bin-MT) are still slightly different in size. 

 

Cannot run non mt DCS.exe here!

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, currenthill said:

Are you using the MT version?

Oh is it exclusive to that ? That sucks.

Thanks for the info though

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Posted
1 minute ago, Eugel said:

Oh is it exclusive to that ? That sucks.

Thanks for the info though

 

Why though? Perhaps the issues you may have previously had with MT are solved now? Just give it a try.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TheFreshPrince said:

Well okay, but somehow you can also only choose DLAA without DLSS in DCS settings. There seems to be a problem with the radar screen antialiasing, the sweep line should be solid and not dashed. Note how the picture also gets very milky when you look in the distant (LOD is maximum). I don't really like that. A lot of testing with different settings necessary it seems like. But the performance upgrade is superb and everything in general looks much better, especially at closer distance! Great update!

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One said that will happen, and it happens, strange. 🤯

It's the nature of DLSS, that is how it works. DLSS is no good for big wide areas. An Upscaler is an Upscaler is an Upscaler. DLSS takes many different tiny pixels, needed for the detail and sharpness, and will add big pixel areas which will take a lot of sharpness. DLAA can't do wonders with big pixel areas with fewer edges.

Many small different pixel + DLAA = sharp

1 big pixel area + DLAA = no magic can be done = blurry

That's the reason DLSS will always be less sharp as without.

 

I am happy we've got TAA and FSR 2. 🥳

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2 minutes ago, HoBGoBLiNzx3 said:

Why aren't you running the MT version anways?

Because I prefer Steam VR over Open XR, and that doesn´t work with the MT exe.

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Thank you for your explanations, so one has to live with some compromises here. What I also forgot to mention is that I didn't experience any micro stutters, even though Mariannas is famous for those. So that's a big plus. I didn't try the TAA and normal AA modes yet to see if the problems are also gone there. But the overall quality and performance is so good that I can live with some things. One necessary test will also be at what distance you can get visual on enemy fighters, as this is obviously crucial for air to air combat. If everything is blurry, that won't help 🫠

 

 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Art-J said:

@BIGNEWY Has MT become standard exec with 2.9? I'm asking, because even though I don't see it mentioned in patch notes, when game's launched from "normal" ST desktop shortcut, the menu screen says "MT preview 2.9.xxxx".

On the other hand I can see both execs (in Bin and Bin-MT) are still slightly different in size. 

 

Was this launched from after the update? if so the team may have added starting mt after updates. ST version is still there. Just close and launch the one you want manually to check

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Running MT here in VR with dlss at quality and it runs great. Only problem is that there is a noticeable decrease in visual quality with this version. It runs great but almost like they decreased clarity to get it to run great. I have a quest 3 and things were so clear before upgrading and now cockpit is blurry and shimmery in comparison to before. It's like I switched back to the Rift S now. Disabling all the new features does nothing either so it appears to be the version 2.9 itself. Sigh.

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1 minute ago, j0nx said:

Running MT here in VR with dlss at quality and it runs great. Only problem is that there is a noticeable decrease in visual quality with this version. It runs great but almost like they decreased clarity to get it to run great. I have a quest 3 and things were so clear before upgrading and now cockpit is blurry and shimmery in comparison to before. It's like I switched back to the Rift S now. Disabling all the new features does nothing either so it appears to be the version 2.9 itself. Sigh.

Try DLAA not upscaling see if it looks better

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  • AIM-120 has a more advanced 3rd order tracking filter and double-contoured tracking loop that provide faster transient process and higher resistance to ECM blinking.

 

      AIM-120 buff?

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16 minutes ago, rem27 said:

Cannot run non mt DCS.exe here!

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check your dcs.exe have you selected run as administrator? if so start directly from the exe and not the updater

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10 minutes ago, peachmonkey said:

look at the list line, it seems it wants elevated permissions to run?  Try running it as Administrator?

😅 runnig it as admin did the trick.

Thank you!

9 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

check your dcs.exe have you selected run as administrator? if so start directly from the exe and not the updater

Yes you're right I did forget to modify my shortcut for non MT to run it as admin. That did the trick.

Thank you Bignewy. 👍

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I'm trying to use the new comms system, i created a new empty mission in the editor with the AH64, both the options in the Audio settings tab are enabled, i have the key for showing the VoiceChat window in game, but it seems that i'm unable to open the thing, and the window is simply not showing. What i'm doing wrong here?

Posted (edited)

love the new splash screen and the rotor wash effects...gonna be great flying helis again!

 

Question: will there be an Nvidia profile for GeForce Experience any time soon now that source code is used now?

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I'm through, caches are cleared and I'm absolutely curious about 2.9...👽

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Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, Eugel said:

OK, how do I activate DLSS or DLAA ? The option is greyed out and I can´t choose it.
Is it RTX 40xx series only ?
I have an RTX3090, just installed the latest driver to be sure...

Make sure you have updated drivers and run dcs with multithreading. I have same card and all fine.

edit: sorry it was already solved I didn't seen the answers.

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