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Beirut

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Just now, SlipHavoc said:

Of course I realize all that.  That doesn't change my opinion that this thread should be locked.

 

Would it be of help if you and I went to another thread, and I told you in that thread that this one has been deleted? I could tell you it's gone and everything is fine and no need to go looking for it.

 

Or... would you immediately go look for a thread you don't want to look for, to find a thread you don't want to find, to read the thread you don't want to read, to comment in the thread you don't want to comment in, to say that the thread should not exist even though you spend so much time existing in it?

 

The truth of the matter is you very much want this thread to remain open. I wish you the best of luck. :smoke: 

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We understand Wizard, I hope once we have a resolution everyone can go back to enjoying the F-15E.  No matter what happens DCS is here to stay and we continue to grow and work towards improving D

NineLine
NineLine

ED management is aware of everything, and I try to pass along as much as I can to them as well. The only reason things are silent right now is because there is nothing new to share, we are not going t

Malakhit
Malakhit

I was encouraged to provide constructive and respectful feedback in this forum thread, so here goes; I'm a long-term customer when it comes to the DCS ecosystem. I started with Black Shark 1 in 2

SlipHavoc

SlipHavoc

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2 minutes ago, Beirut said:

 

Would it be of help if you and I went to another thread, and I told you in that thread that this one has been deleted? I could tell you it's gone and everything is fine and no need to go looking for it.

 

Or... would you immediately go look for a thread you don't want to look for, to find a thread you don't want to find, to read the thread you don't want to read, to comment in the thread you don't want to comment in, to say that the thread should not exist even though you spend so much time existing in it?

 

The truth of the matter is you very much want this thread to remain open. I wish you the best of luck. :smoke: 

Nope, this thread should be locked.

Beirut

Beirut

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Nope, this thread should be locked.

 

The fact that this thread is open has a full 100% of your attention. And it will continue to do so for a yet undetermined amount of time.

 

You want it to remain open and you want to continue to participate. You've shown that at length and will continue to do so by continuing to participate.

 

And I'm happy you're here with us. :smoke:

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KungFu

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Rather or not this thread should be locked isn't up to anyone but ED employees.  An ED employee started this thread and chose not to lock it.  I assume they wanted feedback from customers, not arguing about whether is should or should not be locked doesn't help.  Nothing constructive will come from it. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Strikeman said:

Not sure what that means, what is DMS? Do you mean DRM?

I don't think this has anything todo with compiling, if this was working at one point then obviously it was compiled fine. This seems more like a runtime issue as it broke at a specific time. If you were referring to DRM, then that probably makes more sense, as it would allow a publisher to control their code when deployed.

Just my 2 cents, as no-one has access to the source besides the publisher, I doubt we will know what the real issue was.

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Beirut

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1 minute ago, KungFu said:

Rather or not this thread should be locked isn't up to anyone but ED employees.  An ED employee started this thread and chose not to lock it.  I assume they wanted feedback from customers, not arguing about whether is should or should not be locked doesn't help.  Nothing constructive will come from it. 

 

 

 

Amen!

 

I look forward to my F15E radar working again. I can live without some updates... for a while. But I need my fancy radar. 

 

Ducks! get them in a row. 🧐

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SlipHavoc

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5 minutes ago, KungFu said:

Rather or not this thread should be locked isn't up to anyone but ED employees.  An ED employee started this thread and chose not to lock it.  I assume they wanted feedback from customers, not arguing about whether is should or should not be locked doesn't help.  Nothing constructive will come from it. 

 

 

This is my feedback.  And indeed we can already see that nothing constructive has come from the comments on topics other than whether this thread should be locked, as I predicted earlier, and as was the case in the 90+ pages in the previous thread, which is why my feedback is that this thread should be locked.

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4 minutes ago, SlipHavoc said:

This is my feedback.  And indeed we can already see that nothing constructive has come from the comments on topics other than whether this thread should be locked, as I predicted earlier, and as was the case in the 90+ pages in the previous thread, which is why my feedback is that this thread should be locked.

Thanks for your feedback, no need to keep sharing the same thing though, further duplicate comments will simply be removed. Thanks.

1 hour ago, A2Moonclaw said:

How do refunds work with the gifting system? Does the gifter or the recipient file the ticket for the refund? 

As I understand refunds are returned to whomever purchased, in this case, the person who gifted it to you. Best to open a support ticket and talk to them, I am not sure if any exceptions are being made in this case for special circumstances. 

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SlipHavoc

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1 minute ago, NineLine said:

Thanks for your feedback, no need to keep sharing the same thing though, further duplicate comments will simply be removed. Thanks.

Thanks, I will not post any more about this subject.  I just hope that this standard will also be applied to the incredibly repetitive posts speculating about the situation that appeared in the other thread.  I'll leave it at that.

Beirut

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Well I enjoy open discussion and appreciate ED getting involved. Makes the customer feel heard. Always good.

 

Now... if someone can just fix my radar I will be much more likely to show patience to all parties and not whine about things.

 

Seriously, my delicious fancy eye candy A2G radar, that's my thing. There no "Strike" to the Eagle without it. 😧

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1 minute ago, Beirut said:

Seriously, my delicious fancy eye candy A2G radar, that's my thing. There no "Strike" to the Eagle without it. 

You have a workaround, so you can use it, what's your point?

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spikef22

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From the perspective of a consumer. The one thing that has bothered me extremely is the fact that it feels Eagle Dynamics is being very two-faced about handling this situation. To start, while it is a different situation they're absolutely echoes of the hawk scandal in this whole debacle. The fact ED corporate lied about the measures put in place to prevent this from happening again feels like a spear to the chest. Furthermore if the furlonged razabm employees claims on the discord are to be believed, which at this point I'm not sure why you wouldn't. ED paid a "hush money" claim to razbam right before this went public and since then has been completely ignoring attempts from Razbam staff to reach out and resolve this nor providing the last quarters sales reports. So what gives, how can there be a solution to this if corporate doesn't even want to communicate with razbam? Sure this might be part of the process but it's only digging a deeper hole for all parties including the community. Open the lines of communication or we'll all sink. 

 

I don't want to die I want to fly. 

 

Thanks 

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Beirut

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2 minutes ago, draconus said:

You have a workaround, so you can use it, what's your point?

 

Too much coffee? You're a little pointy there, brother. 😉

 

I don't know what messing around with the time on my PC will do? Like everyone else I have a hundred different things running and I have no idea if they will be happy with the date going back and forth. 

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Beirut

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7 minutes ago, draconus said:

You have a workaround, so you can use it, what's your point?

 

This took about 5 seconds to find. Not that it's authoritative, but it does speak to the concern.

 

The wrong time and date on your computer can negatively affect apps that rely on them. For instance, software that depend on web-based services or internet-based authorization schemes may not allow you access to those resources.Jan 11, 2024

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spikef22

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This took about 5 seconds to find. Not that it's authoritative, but it does speak to the concern.

 

The wrong time and date on your computer can negatively affect apps that rely on them. For instance, software that depend on web-based services or internet-based authorization schemes may not allow you access to those resources.Jan 11, 2024

What I would recommend doing is switching your time back to auto as soon as you're done playing dcs. It sucks 

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Beirut

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What I would recommend doing is switching your time back to auto as soon as you're done playing dcs. It sucks 

 

I appreciate that, but it does not allay my concerns about messing with the settings.

 

Granted, I'm not the smartest cookie in the woodshed regarding PCs, But I do know they have eccentricities that are not always friendly with things like this and that's why I hesitate to change the setting back and forth.

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BaronVonVaderham

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Personally I’m worried about a nasty breakup between the two as it means two things: 

1) Razbam modules will become unusable unless someone takes over the development. 
2) the situation can happen with other suppliers…

should I still invest in this out not?

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GUCCI

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The PC date workaround is not a viable long term solution to have a working radar/TFR. Even a potentially risky one. The only solution is for ED to open their line of communication with Razbam, so this can get resolved and fixed. For now, I have to shelve one of my favorite modules until a safer and better fix is implemented. I implore you to consider fixing this glaring issue by the next patch! 

Thank you :))

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Beirut

Beirut

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1 minute ago, NineLine said:

Yeah I don't like you all having to adjust your PC time to play the F-15E, it's my hope we get a fix sooner rather than later but with everything going on everything is more complex. 

 

Does ED have an opinion whether it's safe or recommended to change the date back and forth?

 

And yes, very much looking forward to my groovy radar working again. 

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spikef22

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1 minute ago, BaronVonVaderham said:

Personally I’m worried about a nasty breakup between the two as it means two things: 

1) Razbam modules will become unusable unless someone takes over the development. 
2) the situation can happen with other suppliers…

should I still invest in this out not?

I personally would not invest in dcs at all until this is over. How this is resolved is going to be telling for how we spend our money as a community on this product as a whole..

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Beirut

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1 minute ago, spikef22 said:

I personally would not invest in dcs at all until this is over. How this resolved is going to be telling for we spend our money as a community on this product as a whole..

 

I understand your concern but for as long as it last - I love my DCS flying.

 

Just bought two Kola maps, one for me and one as a gift, and got the Phantom. Getting the Chinook on Steam day-one. 

 

Gotta fly! I mean, I just gotta fly. :smoke:

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spikef22

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2 minutes ago, Beirut said:

 

I understand your concern but for as long as it last - I love my DCS flying.

 

Just bought two Kola maps, one for me and one as a gift, and got the Phantom. Getting the Chinook on Steam day-one. 

 

Gotta fly! I mean, I just gotta fly. :smoke:

To each their own the Kiowa and kola were must haves for me. But I must abstaine going forward o7 

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Strikeman

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24 minutes ago, draconus said:

You have a workaround, so you can use it, what's your point?

Not for nothing I should not have to change any settings on my PC because there is a bug in the software. That would be considered a high priority bug, but since the the relationship between ED and RAZBAM is a mess, its not going to get fixed.

There could be many side effects to changing the time on the PC, who knows what other programs are running that need a correct time value.

Along with the virus notifications, it has rightfully put some people on edge. It's concerning.

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