F-5E-3 Remaster Skins

[virgo47]

53 minutes ago, dSAF Dancer said:

not really, only  few of the old default skins are confirmed, many more are not

OK, then I'd join the ranks of annoyed people. I liked many of those and I like changing the skins in my custom missions just for fun.

There should be at least the original set available, I believe.

[Bucic]

51 minutes ago, virgo47 said:

OK, then I'd join the ranks of annoyed people. I liked many of those and I like changing the skins in my custom missions just for fun.

There should be at least the original set available, I believe.

The original set was built throughout years, including at least one massive skin contest.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

1 hour ago, virgo47 said:

There should be at least the original set available, I believe.

True enough, but if some of the older liveries were made by the community and added as a reward for winning a contest, it makes sense that they are not included now: we'll need to wait for those people to make a new livery using the new paint kit - if they wish to do so.

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

This thread being marked as being "solved" is a bit misleading. The main issue of the thread has evolved into the unfortunate issue of not being able to use the Model Viewer and the encryption / hiding of the files that we livery makers use.

Perhaps remove the "solved" and let us know whether or not the MV issue will be changed in the future.

[Archangel44]

I got this from ED's latest video => Latest F5-E-3 video on You Tube

According to this screen shot taken from the video, does anybody know how to replicate this so that in game, there's this level of immersion?

Thank you,

[Bucic]

2 hours ago, Archangel44 said:

I got this from ED's latest video => Latest F5-E-3 video on You Tube

According to this screen shot taken from the video, does anybody know how to replicate this so that in game, there's this level of immersion?

Thank you,

Not active in the current build. You can only see it on AI units after they finish shutdown and parking.

Edited December 7, 2024 by Bucic

[virgo47]

10 minutes ago, Archangel44 said:

According to this screen shot taken from the video, does anybody know how to replicate this so that in game, there's this level of immersion?

Reported by a few players, acknowledged, and fix should be on the way.

[ivo]

On 12/4/2024 at 9:01 PM, NineLine said:

The model is completely new so it would not fit from the old model, even if we tried to line the pieces up. 

On liveries:

New liveries along with a new and more detailed texture template:
Standard neutral grey
Swiss Air Force, 2 tone grey
Austrian Air Force 2, Staffel
Norwegian Air Force 338 sqn 215
“MiG-28” Topgun black
Aggressor Navy blue camouflage VFC-13
Aggressor desert camouflage VFC-13

New liveries coming soon:
Vietnam 1970s
Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force
Imperial Iranian Air Force
Swiss Air Force demo team
Aggressor forest camouflage

The texture template for users to create their own should be available soon and should be no later than the Christmas update.

Hi I bought the remastered version but I can't find the new skins in the pack. I only have 3 USAF grey skins and 2 aggressors

[razo+r]

26 minutes ago, ivo said:

Hi I bought the remastered version but I can't find the new skins in the pack. I only have 3 USAF grey skins and 2 aggressors

The skins are locked to their respective country. Change the country and you shall have access to the other skins.

[ivo]

Yeaaa thank 

[Archangel44]

8 hours ago, Bucic said:

Not active in the current build. You can only see it on AI units after they finish shutdown and parking.

Thanks,

I made a screen shot of it on the Kola map. Very cool indeed.

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Archangel44

[Bigskill]

Il 04/12/2024 at 13:01, NineLine ha scritto:

The model is completely new so it would not fit from the old model, even if we tried to line the pieces up. 

On liveries:

New liveries along with a new and more detailed texture template:
Standard neutral grey
Swiss Air Force, 2 tone grey
Austrian Air Force 2, Staffel
Norwegian Air Force 338 sqn 215
“MiG-28” Topgun black
Aggressor Navy blue camouflage VFC-13
Aggressor desert camouflage VFC-13

New liveries coming soon:
Vietnam 1970s
Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force
Imperial Iranian Air Force
Swiss Air Force demo team
Aggressor forest camouflage

The texture template for users to create their own should be available soon and should be no later than the Christmas update.

Why you are not just adding the same skin available for the older model? Was nice to fly with Italian livery.....

[Mizzy]

Firstly, I like the Remaster, there has been a lot of work put into the model and for £5 using airmiles, it's a steal. However, I have a large collection of skin jobs and I was expecting to still use the old model but I have to uninstall the new one to use the old skins.

Is there any way we can have both models please.

Mizzy

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, Mizzy said:

Firstly, I like the Remaster, there has been a lot of work put into the model and for £5 using airmiles, it's a steal. However, I have a large collection of skin jobs and I was expecting to still use the old model but I have to uninstall the new one to use the old skins.

Is there any way we can have both models please.

Mizzy

Hi Mizzy, 

we have more liveries coming soon. and we will release the template also. 

You can not have both as the Remastered version directly replaces the older one. 

thank you 

[plott1964]

BIGNEWY, is there a template for the FC F-5?

[BIGNEWY]

2 minutes ago, plott1964 said:

BIGNEWY, is there a template for the FC F-5?

The FC F-5E uses the old FF F-5E template 
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/texture_templates/filter/aircraft-is-f-5e/apply/

[Mizzy]

On 12/10/2024 at 3:28 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi Mizzy, 

we have more liveries coming soon. and we will release the template also. 

You can not have both as the Remastered version directly replaces the older one. 

thank you 

Ahh right, there you go. Not a big deal as I just uninstall the Remaster so I can use my old skins.

Cheers

[RustBelt]

On 12/5/2024 at 2:37 PM, Annelid said:

Why would ED care if you messed around with their new skins?  You have to buy the upgrade to use them because of a new format right?  What are people doing that require encryption?  Uploading skins to another sim?

Either they suspect someone is stealing assets from them, or, Vice-Versa. Either way, they’ve decided everything should be locked down.  

[Fusedspine33]

"The texture template for users to create their own should be available soon and should be no later than the Christmas update."

@BIGNEWY any update on when the new texture template for the remaster will be available?

Edited December 24, 2024 by Fusedspine33

[dSAF Dancer]

Yep, would really appreciate an update on that. Losing all old skins is rough but understandable. Not having a texture template would also be understandable if we at least could make simple liveries from the included liveries but as they are encrypted that is also impossible.

 

In my opinion, if liveries are encrypted,  a module should not be released until the template is ready.

[dSAF Dancer]

Any update on getting the ability to make skins for the f-5?

[Reflected]

Any update on the remastered template please?

[PSV_Tango]

Hey,

First of all, thank you for releasing the template. However, in its current state, it’s extremely difficult to achieve proper results. I’d like to highlight a few key issues and suggest potential solutions:

• Lack of a Usable Model in ModelViewer: Not having an .edm file to open in ModelViewer significantly hampers the workflow. I understand that encryption is necessary to prevent unauthorized copying and reuse of the 3D model in older mod versions. However, would it be possible to provide an .edm file with a built-in visual watermark—such as a large 3D text overlay? This would prevent in-game use while still allowing us to accurately place details and align textures.

• Missing Examples for description.lua: We currently have no reference for enabling the correct antennas and country-specific details in the description.lua. Without access to existing liveries or clear documentation, it’s challenging to configure these elements correctly. Could you provide sample files or a more detailed guide to help us set this up properly?

• Pilot and Helmet Templates: As of now, we don’t have access to the pilot or helmet templates. I assume these are still in progress, but it would be helpful to get confirmation on their status and an estimated release timeframe. These elements are essential for completing a fully detailed and accurate livery.

I appreciate the hard work you’re putting into this and hope these concerns can be addressed to improve the workflow for all creators. Looking forward to your feedback.


Best regards,


Tango

[Megalax]

22 minutes ago, PSV_Tango said:

Hey,

First of all, thank you for releasing the template. However, in its current state, it’s extremely difficult to achieve proper results. I’d like to highlight a few key issues and suggest potential solutions:

• Lack of a Usable Model in ModelViewer: Not having an .edm file to open in ModelViewer significantly hampers the workflow. I understand that encryption is necessary to prevent unauthorized copying and reuse of the 3D model in older mod versions. However, would it be possible to provide an .edm file with a built-in visual watermark—such as a large 3D text overlay? This would prevent in-game use while still allowing us to accurately place details and align textures.

• Missing Examples for description.lua: We currently have no reference for enabling the correct antennas and country-specific details in the description.lua. Without access to existing liveries or clear documentation, it’s challenging to configure these elements correctly. Could you provide sample files or a more detailed guide to help us set this up properly?

• Pilot and Helmet Templates: As of now, we don’t have access to the pilot or helmet templates. I assume these are still in progress, but it would be helpful to get confirmation on their status and an estimated release timeframe. These elements are essential for completing a fully detailed and accurate livery.

I appreciate the hard work you’re putting into this and hope these concerns can be addressed to improve the workflow for all creators. Looking forward to your feedback.


Best regards,


Tango

 

Agree to all the above, but to your number one point, could the model viewer be updated to have a drop down like the Mission Editor for models? So we may still access the model for viewing without loading the game? Model Viewer has many advantages and functionality that opening and closing the game multiple times to see a change in a livery is a big hassle.

Perhaps ED can open a discussion with livery artists in order to see what it is that we would require to give out content?

[pyromaniac4002]

Delivering the template without any solution for the broken model viewer/encryption situation introduced with this module is useless. Since no one on ED's side has even indicated their recognition of the problem, I can only assume that there are no plans to restore this most basic and essential tool that livery makers have been using to add value to ED's products for decades.

Been waiting and following up on this for months by now for any sign of a solution. If this is the way it's going to be, there simply won't be community-made liveries in DCS anymore.