ED Team NineLine Posted May 20 Author ED Team Posted May 20 37 minutes ago, YoYo said: +1, I know perfectly well the opinions of a pilot, a friend, who trained and flew the entire service on the MiG-29 in version 9.12. Unfortunately, he has a negative opinion in terms of FM of the current MiG-29 model from FC (MiG-29A). In reality, he evaluates the MiG as a plane that reacts much better to the pilot's actions and is much more responsive. In FC, he emphasizes quite strongly that the plane is too heavy in flight and understeers. Of course, this is not my opinion, although I have similar impressions from the very beginning after the changes in PFM some time ago (btw. interesting that he rated the previous flight model as better). I hope that FM will change for FF version to be more hunting and aggressive and the FM will be further studied and analyzed again before the model will be released. Personally I can't wait :). Pre-ordered on the first day anyway. This could change with a number of things coming, such as more advanced system modelling as well as better force feedback support, which I hope to see improve as we get access to devices like the one from WW. The issue with just having a real pilot jump onto DCS and try it out is that there is could be a number of things that impact that experience, such as quality of controls, the quality of the computer, etc. If they feel they want to help out, they are welcome to reach out to me via DM, or support ticket and we can see what they have to offer, but, respectfully, we have seen many "real pilots" over the years. We need to verify their experience before considering it especially if and when it contradicts already verified SMEs. 6 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Mateo Posted May 21 Posted May 21 6 hours ago, NineLine said: Most likely, you will see some differences in how the aircraft flies based on the systems being more detailed, but this would be more about how those systems function and affect the aircraft; the FM would be under all that. Thank you, actually it is a great information. Will the control stick move automatically when working together with the SAU (damper)? Will the upper air intakes move automatically? – This question has already been asked on the forum, but I don’t recall the answer 1
YoYo Posted May 21 Posted May 21 (edited) 7 hours ago, NineLine said: This could change with a number of things coming, such as more advanced system modelling as well as better force feedback support, which I hope to see improve as we get access to devices like the one from WW. The issue with just having a real pilot jump onto DCS and try it out is that there is could be a number of things that impact that experience, such as quality of controls, the quality of the computer, etc. If they feel they want to help out, they are welcome to reach out to me via DM, or support ticket and we can see what they have to offer, but, respectfully, we have seen many "real pilots" over the years. We need to verify their experience before considering it especially if and when it contradicts already verified SMEs. I don't know if he's registered on the Forum, but he's been flying in DCS for a long time (what is important, he currently works at the military aviation school as a lecturer, so he is still in the subject), so in this situation he's not someone who just sat down and got shocked btw. I agree with that, I've had pilots who couldn't handle simulators at all, because they had a different perspective and didn't feel the g-forces and movement for obvious reasons. I'll ask if he'd like to join the test team. Thanks. Edited May 21 by YoYo 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
okopanja Posted May 21 Posted May 21 (edited) Is it true that Mig-29 FF module is already 2.64 GB in size? For comparison FC3 29 uses only around 450MB. Are we ahead of imminent release? Source is Mig-29 FF module entry here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/shop/ Edited May 21 by okopanja
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 21 ED Team Posted May 21 2 minutes ago, okopanja said: Is it true that Mig-29 FF module is already 2.64 Gb in size? For comparison FC3 29 uses only around 450Mb. Are we ahead of imminent release? Source is Mig-29 FF module entry here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/shop/ Hi, the size is correct based on the current one we have in testing currently. thank you 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 21 Posted May 21 12 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: Hi, the size is correct based on the current one we have in testing currently. thank you Except it’s megabyte and not megabit 2 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
okopanja Posted May 21 Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: Except it’s megabyte and not megabit Typo is corrected at least on my side, but it's either Mbyte or MB. 1
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 21 Posted May 21 1 minute ago, okopanja said: Typo is corrected at least on my side I was referring to the fact that the DCS website/store uses the wrong unit, everywhere. Either you keep the unit, but then all the numbers are 8x too low, or the numbers are correct, but then it's MB and GB instead of Mb and Gb. And yes, it matters. 6 Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
skywalker22 Posted May 21 Posted May 21 5 hours ago, okopanja said: Is it true that Mig-29 FF module is already 2.64 GB in size? For comparison FC3 29 uses only around 450MB. Are we ahead of imminent release? Source is Mig-29 FF module entry here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/de/shop/ Liveries can take much of that space though. 1
EchoOneOne Posted May 21 Posted May 21 20 hours ago, NineLine said: You can still make liveries, and we are looking at ways to improve working with the encrypted models. Releasing it in this format only hurts the community. You could have developed a method for encrypted viewing of the model in the model viewer and then released the full version. Another "feature" released to "fill the hole". 2 "Once a dragon always a dragon"
ED Team NineLine Posted May 21 Author ED Team Posted May 21 9 minutes ago, EchoOneOne said: Releasing it in this format only hurts the community. You could have developed a method for encrypted viewing of the model in the model viewer and then released the full version. Another "feature" released to "fill the hole". It is not up for discussion here, we have already stated what we are going to try to do elsewhere. Please keep the discussion on the MiG-29 FAQ here, thanks. 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
draconus Posted May 22 Posted May 22 18 hours ago, skywalker22 said: Liveries can take much of that space though. Liveries are kept in the core section and will be added by DCS update once the module is released so they don't add up to the module's files size requirements. Q: What exact radar type is going to be simulated? Q: What A2G weapons are planned? 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Ztorm Posted May 22 Posted May 22 55 minutes ago, draconus said: Liveries are kept in the core section and will be added by DCS update once the module is released so they don't add up to the module's files size requirements. Q: What exact radar type is going to be simulated? Q: What A2G weapons are planned? From what was in the announcement; "The MiG-29A also has limited visual ground attack capability with 50 to 500 kg bombs, cluster bombs, and unguided S-5, S-8 and S-24 rockets." Q: how many FAB-50 will the Mig-29 be able to carry? 1
0minutes Posted May 22 Posted May 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, draconus said: Liveries are kept in the core section and will be added by DCS update once the module is released so they don't add up to the module's files size requirements. Q: What exact radar type is going to be simulated? Q: What A2G weapons are planned? The MiG-29 being simulated is an Export Version of the MiG-29 9.12 (изделие 5). If ED is consistent and implement the exact Avionics of the plane they got the model from, then the radar would be the N019EA which is a slightly downgraded N019 made for export. As for the armament, the MiG-29 woulld be able to carry 4x FaB 50-500 **The information about loadout are taken from the Serbian Flight & the original MiG-29 9.12 manuals, but they are essentialy the same planes.null Edited May 22 by 0minutes 3
Renko Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Will the Mig-29 have on Special Option a slider to adjust for the Afterburner Detent? All recent 3rd party modules have this, and its a great QoL for users. Its a must to cover that need for different users hardware (Bit oftopic if i may but i think it will be great if the other ED modules add this to their options too) 10
AeriaGloria Posted May 22 Posted May 22 8 hours ago, Ztorm said: From what was in the announcement; "The MiG-29A also has limited visual ground attack capability with 50 to 500 kg bombs, cluster bombs, and unguided S-5, S-8 and S-24 rockets." Q: how many FAB-50 will the Mig-29 be able to carry? It might just be four. Later models could carry multiple ejection racks allowing them to carry 4x FAB-100 on the most inboard pylons, but jury is out if we get this “software” update or not. 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Flаnker Posted May 23 Posted May 23 (edited) I wonder if it can carry MBD? It will be possible to take 6 FAB-500/250 with it. Edited May 23 by Flаnker 1 Мои авиафото
draconus Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Please, don't speculate in this thread. Questions are specifically asked in this FAQ to get answers from ED - what they plan to implement and simulate in the coming module - not what you think it should be or was IRL. Thanks. 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
okopanja Posted May 23 Posted May 23 58 minutes ago, Flаnker said: I wonder if it can carry MBD? It will be possible to take 6 FAB-500/250 with it. What is MBD?
SOLIDKREATE Posted May 23 Posted May 23 On 5/20/2025 at 10:11 AM, NineLine said: The model will be protected like all new models. So, no skin templates? Or is he talking about something else? AVIONICS: ASUS BTF TUF MB, INTEL i9 RAPTORLAKE 24 CORE, 48GB PATRIOT VIPER TUF 6600MHz, 16GB ASUS TUF RTX 4070ti SUPER, ASUS TUF 1000w PSU CONTROLS: LOGI X-56 RHINO HOTAS, LOGI PRO RUDDER PEDALS, LOGI G733 LIGHTSPEED MAIN BIRDS: F/A-18C, MIRAGE F1
Flаnker Posted May 23 Posted May 23 (edited) 9 минут назад, okopanja сказал: What is MBD? Sorry. This is a Russian abbreviation. "MBD" (МБД3-У2Т)- Multi-lock beam holder - for hanging several bombs. Edited May 23 by Flаnker 1 2 Мои авиафото
okopanja Posted May 23 Posted May 23 22 minutes ago, Flаnker said: Sorry. This is a Russian abbreviation. "MBD" (МБД3-У2Т)- Multi-lock beam holder - for hanging several bombs. Had to look this up. So this is a Mig-23/27 thingy. But picture you posted appears to show it on Mig-29? 1
Tarres Posted May 23 Posted May 23 (edited) It’s a 9.13. Increased payload to 4000kg from 2000kg and the ability to carry the MBD ejectors in the internal pylons alongside more fuel and the internal ecm jammer. Edited May 23 by Tarres 1
mwd2 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Will the GCI usable for all other aircraft in the DCS World universe or only for the MiG-29? 1 Playing: DCS World Intel i7-13700KF, 64GB DDR5 @5600MHz, RTX 4080 ZOTAC Trinity, WIN 11 64Bit Prof. Squadron "Serious Uglies" / Discord-Server: https://discord.gg/2WccwBh Ghost0815
AeriaGloria Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 hours ago, mwd2 said: Will the GCI usable for all other aircraft in the DCS World universe or only for the MiG-29? Only MiG-29. It’s a datalink, instructions shown in the HUD and you need to dial the right station with a panel 2 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
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