Capt_Haddock Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 I'm finding the R-60 quite effective, actually. Just make sure you are in air mode (6), point the crosshairs towards the target and shoot when you get a loud tone lock. The valid lock cone is quite narrow, I'll give you that, but if you see the target it's easy to lock. I have a question myself: About Spotting ground targets. I'm finding it a lot harder than in FC2. Has anything changed? Or am I getting older? (I suspect it's the later). I used to always carry a Mercury pod, even in daylight missions, but now I just can't see anything out there. Not with the eyeballs, nor with the Shkval or the Mercury. Any tips you guys would like to share?
Novum Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 spotting is so hard, interesting to know how you pro´s does it =)
HiJack Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) It's not easy with the Su-25 or the Su-25T. A column on the road is easier spotted with your eyeball than searching with the skhval. Also looking for arty and moving tanks is easier with the eyeball than the skhval. You should try to locate approximately the target area with your eyes and of course the waypoint and distance to the waypoint before using the skhval. At least that is my tips, but it is not easy. If you can’t spot the target area then do not fly straight towards the waypoint but do a couple of circles and look some more. EDIT: Also the direction and power of any SAM signal is a huge point for starting to turn if you can't see the target area! (HJ) Edited June 24, 2012 by HiJack
Capt_Haddock Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 It's not easy with the Su-25 or the Su-25T. A column on the road is easier spotted with your eyeball than searching with the skhval.... (HJ) Cool! Thanks for the tip. I'll try searching more out of the window before turning on the Shkval. It makes perfect sense if you think about how narrow the camera FOV is. And about turning around. I've noticed that if I let the battle unfold a little bit before I get there it's a lot easier to get my bearings. Nothing like a smoking tank to mark a position! Not the most heroic approach, but hey! If it helps... :) I remember, thought, reading many years ago Yeager's autobiography how easy it was for him to pick up small targets on the ground when he flew his P-51 over Europe. He said he could easily spot men running away from vehicles trying to hide from him. He wasn't proud of it (he was following orders after all), but he does hint that those me had nowhere to hide... The Su-25 is a faster plane than the P-51, but still... I feel spotting things should be a little bit easier. Will try harder. Thanks again!
Novum Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 It's not easy with the Su-25 or the Su-25T. A column on the road is easier spotted with your eyeball than searching with the skhval. Also looking for arty and moving tanks is easier with the eyeball than the skhval. You should try to locate approximately the target area with your eyes and of course the waypoint and distance to the waypoint before using the skhval. At least that is my tips, but it is not easy. If you can’t spot the target area then do not fly straight towards the waypoint but do a couple of circles and look some more. EDIT: Also the direction and power of any SAM signal is a huge point for starting to turn if you can't see the target area! (HJ) Nice info! thxs a lot :D
HiJack Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 When I started out with the Su-25T I used training mission and switching lables on and of to locate the target area. Switch lables on and off and practise to se units in the terrain, its all just practise. Do a couple of circles well outside the target area and just locate targets. Do the campaign with lables on and do it over again with lables off. (HJ)
Boberro Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 I find looking for targets via Shkval easier than visually - I use TV on fullscreen so it may be that :) Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
crazyirish93 Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Is there a reason why the su 25t likes to veer on the runways ? or am i doing something wrong
159th_Viper Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Is there a reason why the su 25t likes to veer on the runways ? or am i doing something wrong When landing? Sounds like excess rudder input - not normally the case that the Toad veers around. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
PeterP Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Rule of the thumb: Shortly after touchdown - below 250KmH - deploy the chute. And than roll out -while carefully holding her on track - without wheel-brakes - until you reach 120kmh . Now you can gently use the breaks for a stop. Edited June 28, 2012 by PeterP
crazyirish93 Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 this is on takeoff though is their a parking brake to disengage
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 28, 2012 Author Posted June 28, 2012 Is there a reason why the su 25t likes to veer on the runways ? or am i doing something wrong Could be wind in the mission. The rudder is quite a large windbreak. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
159th_Viper Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 ...is their a parking brake to disengage No. Easiest would be to post a track - that way we can state with certainty what's up. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
monotwix Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Actually it makes sense when the tricycle gear pulls to the opposite side when the brakes applied…It tightens the centrifugal circle and increases the centrifugal pull. Toad or any thing, should it also belong to the tricycle gear? Changing the pressure load from on one side of tires to another and the angle of tire in tricycle. Would that be like a natural stabilising factor? Is that the case? I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
crazyirish93 Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Tracks as requested takeoff v and takeoff 2 is what the plane does with no intervention from me takeoff h is me giving rudder adjustments to try stay on the runway.takeoff v.trktakeoff2.trktakeoff h.trk
joey45 Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I can see crosswinds. Try this. Hold brakes Throttle to 80% release brakes max throttle. if you want have a bit of trim up aswel. and try with 1st stage flaps. Edited June 28, 2012 by joey45 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
monotwix Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Surely the landing would be the subject of practice after a takeoff. Also the full flaps setting on takeoff when loaded is somewhat being in control, retract to 1 at 330 an up at 400kph. No problems there. Rotate at 270kph Edited June 28, 2012 by monotwix I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
crazyirish93 Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 ok tried on taking off in editor the veering is less pronounced but it does still want to go to one side or the other so i still need to correct i assume that is probably normal ?
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 29, 2012 Author Posted June 29, 2012 ok tried on taking off in editor the veering is less pronounced but it does still want to go to one side or the other so i still need to correct i assume that is probably normal ? Yes this is normal. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
leafer Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Love the Toad. Deadly ugly. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
159th_Falcon Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Love the Toad. Deadly ugly. Sure do, awesome plane and handles quite well. Especially the -A. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:)
tflash Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 So strange my favourite plane is now for "free" so to say! But I did enjoy buying FC3 to rediscover the incredible vanilla Su-25 ! What a joy to fly, these birds! A job well done, ED! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rongor Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 I am also having difficulties finding targets in the shkval. If I locate them via eyeballs, I will have to move some miles away to return for the attack run. what distance would be realistic here? If I try to approach from 10 to 5 miles inbound the target, the time left is too short for me to get the target inside the monitor and finally get a valid lock. And also this bird flies like a stone, loses speed easily and turns have to be much too large, otherwise I slow down to stall speed. The agility of this plane is a joke, absolutely no match for the warthog...
159th_Viper Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) this bird flies like a stone, loses speed easily and turns have to be much too large, otherwise I slow down to stall speed..... One day, when you've mastered the Toad, you'll realise the folly of that statement. Until then, keep on Toading :pilotfly: Edited January 5, 2013 by 159th_Viper Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
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