jazjar Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 I think even S-300 will have a sucky day against ALARM. It cannt engage directly upward, like almost every Russian SAM built! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Thanks for those Falcon. Tobashi, Not a definitive or finalised list but here you go: 27mm Mauser BK27 cannon AIM-9 Sidewinder ASRAAM IRIS-T (for German variant) AIM-120 AMRAAM Meteor Paveway II Paveway II DMLGB Paveway III GBU-10 GBU-16 GBU-24 Paveway III Lightnening III pod AGM-84 Harpoon AGM-65 Maverick JASSM Taurus Storm Shadow ALARM CBLS-200 Brimstone I suggest getting the aircraft done with ingame weapons first, like AIM-9, AMRAAM and the LGB's. This will ease complexity and shorten development times (or from antoher perspective: give you time to concentrate on the aircraft itself and avoid get stuck in the complexity of developing all new weapons as well) Meteor will be fun but probably on solo VS AI. Online will be complicated to convince players flying other aircraft at all. Also I dont think some of those weapons are even integrated on the real aircraft at all. I was under the impression the ALARM missile has stopped production years ago? Someone correct me if wrong. Edited June 24, 2012 by Pilotasso .
Dudikoff Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 I loved it in EF-2000 back in the 90ies! Just the 2 modes then...:thumbup: And before that, it was a life saver in Tornado.. Same two modes, too. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
SUBS17 Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 ALARM actually sounds a bit more impressive than AGM-88C. Very good capability against radar shut down. I think I'd have a tough time in SAM Simulator against that. ;) And also Magnum calls over the Guard channel. [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC]
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Thanks for those Falcon. Tobashi, Not a definitive or finalised list but here you go: 27mm Mauser BK27 cannon AIM-9 Sidewinder ASRAAM IRIS-T (for German variant) AIM-120 AMRAAM Meteor Paveway II Paveway II DMLGB Paveway III GBU-10 GBU-16 GBU-24 Paveway III Lightnening III pod AGM-84 Harpoon AGM-65 Maverick JASSM Taurus Storm Shadow ALARM CBLS-200 Brimstone MICA? If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
159th_Viper Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 MICA? Typhoon not a MICA launch platform. Utilizes the Meteor. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 You're right. I mistook an IRIS-T for one. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
Tango Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Thanks for those Falcon. Tobashi, Not a definitive or finalised list but here you go: 27mm Mauser BK27 cannon AIM-9 Sidewinder ASRAAM IRIS-T (for German variant) AIM-120 AMRAAM Meteor Paveway II Paveway II DMLGB Paveway III GBU-10 GBU-16 GBU-24 Paveway III Lightnening III pod AGM-84 Harpoon AGM-65 Maverick JASSM Taurus Storm Shadow ALARM CBLS-200 Brimstone LOL - most of that is a wish-list for the real thing! :D We want to keep it as realistic as possible, right? :D ASRAAM AMRRAM IRIS-T AIM-9 :D Seriously - someone out me out of my misery and show me a photo of it carrying live air-to-ground ordnance. Best regards, Tango. Edited July 22, 2012 by Tango
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 LOL - most of that is a wish-list for the real thing! :D We want to keep it as realistic as possible, right? :D ASRAAM AMRRAM IRIS-T AIM-9 :D Seriously - someone out me out of my misery and show me a photo of it carrying live air-to-ground ordnance. Best regards, Tango. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1513322&postcount=180 If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 22, 2012 ED Team Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) just to add :) yellow band indicating a high-explosive hazard :) Edited July 22, 2012 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Tango Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1513322&postcount=180 They are training weapons. Blue = inert/captive. Best regards, Tango. Edited July 22, 2012 by Tango
Eddie Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) LOL - most of that is a wish-list for the real thing! :D We want to keep it as realistic as possible, right? :D ASRAAM AMRRAM IRIS-T AIM-9 :D Seriously - someone out me out of my misery and show me a photo of it carrying live air-to-ground ordnance. Best regards, Tango. Was it just carrying or would you like to see dropping of said ordnance onto live targets as well? :D In the initial 3 months of air ops over Libya our jets dropped a hell of a lot of ordnance, both on Libyan Govt. ground forces and strategic targets. For most of the first 3 months we were in Italy for Libyan air ops the jets took off loaded and came back empty. It was only for the first couple of weeks of operations that the Typhoon's were employed in a purely A/A role. Although to be fair you're right, much of the list isn't cleared for operational use, yet. Edited July 22, 2012 by Eddie
Tango Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Thanks!! :beer: One reason I disliked the aircraft is not the aircraft itself, but the fact that it seemed to be doing nothing but chasing the odd stray, whilst we were losing proven aircraft in budget cuts. It always seemed the EF was in some test phase and never operational (despite the fact that, I think, all the weapons it was supposed to carry are already in service on multiple other types). It just never made any sense. Best regards, Tango. Edited July 22, 2012 by Tango
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 22, 2012 ED Team Posted July 22, 2012 Im With you there Tango, wish we still had our harrier's :) cheaper to run as well Old skool ftw lol Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 I don't think the F-35 will properly replace the Harrier's true VTOL abilities. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
Eddie Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Thanks!! :beer: One reason I disliked the aircraft is not the aircraft itself, but the fact that it seemed to be doing nothing but chasing the odd stray, whilst we were losing proven aircraft in budget cuts. It always seemed the EF was in some test phase and never operational (despite the fact that, I think, all the weapons it was supposed to carry are already in service on multiple other types). It just never made any sense. Best regards, Tango. Put simply the problems are money, and BAE Systems. If we had more of the former and got rid of the latter things would be much further along than they are now. In some cases the other partner nations also hold things up by arguing over capabilities that we want and they don't and vice-versa. Capability creep is also an issue, although not as much now as it was early on. When it comes to weapons it doesn't matter if they are already in use on another aircraft, they still have go through the same trials as if they were brand new on a new airframe. And some of those trials can only be carried out in places like the Nevada ranges due to lack of space in the UK for live weapon employment and testing, and getting jets to the states for trials is expensive, not to mention the cost of the range time itself. Things will get there, it's just that in the current financial climate it'll take longer that's all.
joey45 Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 I have photos of a big airfix model of the Tiffy with big plastic bombs and missiles... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 The Brimstone was much better sized for that job. Was that a 500lb bomb? If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
Eddie Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 The Brimstone was much better sized for that job. Was that a 500lb bomb? EPW II, 1000 lbs.
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Put simply the problems are money, and BAE Systems. If we had more of the former and got rid of the latter things would be much further along than they are now. In some cases the other partner nations also hold things up by arguing over capabilities that we want and they don't and vice-versa. Capability creep is also an issue, although not as much now as it was early on. When it comes to weapons it doesn't matter if they are already in use on another aircraft, they still have go through the same trials as if they were brand new on a new airframe. And some of those trials can only be carried out in places like the Nevada ranges due to lack of space in the UK for live weapon employment and testing, and getting jets to the states for trials is expensive, not to mention the cost of the range time itself. Things will get there, it's just that in the current financial climate it'll take longer that's all. Now as I remember it, a lot of problems were caused by test pilots and the DPA always trying to squeeze in last minute changes when it was past the last minute. EPW II, 1000 lbs. Overkill.:lol: If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
Eddie Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Now as I remember it, a lot of problems were caused by test pilots and the DPA always trying to squeeze in last minute changes when it was past the last minute. During early development, yes. Now however we'd just like what we asked for years ago. Overkill.:lol: Better than no kill.
rattler Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 I don't think the F-35 will properly replace the Harrier's true VTOL abilities. The F-35 is really a joke that the U.S. is pushing. Most everyone who was in line to purchase is looking very very hard at the F-35 capabilities and of course price tag. It's a single engine and that is something our Country has to pay particular attention to as well as everything else. If BAE can't get the Harrier right after all these years what do you think the U.S. will do with it's first real go at it.:joystick:
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 More piccies: http://www.eurofighter.com/media/news0/news-detail/article/info-eurofighter-typhoon-on-libya-operations-odyssey-down-and-unified-protector.html If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
JCamel Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 During early development, yes. Now however we'd just like what we asked for years ago. At least you're not waiting for an MRA4.:lol: Worst project ever. If the telegraph pole takes off after you, it is not a telegraph pole.
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