Next DCS (Russian) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[SatThuVoBui]

Military secrets are hard to come by and even harder to make public. Unless ED has a contract where part of the contract specifys that the public can have access to it (a-10c) then its a no go. Sad but thats the reality of it... being a mig29 fan it breaks my hart....

 

Why is the avionics and data for the standard Su-27 still classified? It's getting pretty old at this point considering that it's an aircraft that was introduced to the Russian Air Force in 1985 and Sukhoi is coming out with the PAK-FA soon. Besides, it's not like America doesn't have all the data they need from it, so no point in hiding much anymore.

[Zychon]

Concerned with sales/maintenance contracts with smaller nations where is it still a front line fighter, perhaps? Just a guess. The russian military is not a place I'd instinctively associate with transparency.

 

"Share your information with us, please."

 

"Do we have to?"

 

"Not really."

 

"Okay, then No."

[Xeno426]

Quite a few nations tend to be very tight-lipped about actual capability of their military systems, even twenty years after the system has been removed from service. Denmark and the UK come to mind beyond just Russia.

[Eponsky_bot]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PLAAF]

Probably because there'd be more actual information on the earlier Su-27 versions than the new Su-35. Realism > speculation.

 

That's right.

In fact I would be contented with just Su-27SM1 or even a Su-27S if we can get a ASM and PFM.

[Solty]

This is just sad. It seems that the pole says that people want more versions of the plane that is already in the game. :joystick:

 

I was not decided between 2 choices MiG25/23. Personaly I've voted for MiG23. It would be unique, fresh for the game and would be completely different to what we see in Su27 or MiG29. I'd love to see it and fly it.

Edited August 30, 2014 by Solty

[Exorcet]

This is just sad. It seems that the pole says that people want more versions of the plane that is already in the game.

Can you blame them? What we have is FC3 level. DCS is something else completely. People want their aircraft to be fully modeled. DCS F-15 is very near the top of my list because quite simply, the FC3 version won't compared to a fully modeled plane. At least the F-15 has AFM (and while I consider AFM more important than ASM, I definitely do want ASM), which none of the Russian fighters have now.

[JOKERACTS]

why not try the MIG-25 or MIG-31?

[Solty]

why not try the MIG-25 or MIG-31?

Yeah, both of them are beasts. Mach 3.0 :D

[Eflemmen]

I want the su 27/mig 29 with thrustvectoring nozzles :) thats the dream! :D

[Vedexent]

Can you blame them? What we have is FC3 level. DCS is something else completely. People want their aircraft to be fully modeled. DCS F-15 is very near the top of my list because quite simply, the FC3 version won't compared to a fully modeled plane. At least the F-15 has AFM (and while I consider AFM more important than ASM, I definitely do want ASM), which none of the Russian fighters have now.

 

+1 on this.

 

I would like an even playing field / level of fidelity on all DCS aircraft - especially because if we don't, the Russian aircraft get the short end of the stick.

 

I would be gleeful beyond measure if there was ASM for my Su-25 (doubly so if there was an upgrade to the Su-25SM model).

 

I believe this is the current slow steady direction ED is taking, as we're seeing PFM for the F-15, and PFM coming to the Su-27, apparently.

 

Don't forget that brand new aircraft are still coming in from Belsimtek and Leatherneck, so it's not like all new projects are on hold while they update the FC3 aircraft.

[Vedexent]

I personally would love to see another FC3 style aircraft that wasn't a variation of the same air-frames that are already in FC3.

 

It's only my personal opinions, but I can't disagree more.

 

I don't want to see any new FC3 level aircraft. There are other flight sims - like IL2 Battle of Stalingrad - which model to this level: Survey Sims as opposed to Study Sims.

 

There's nothing at all wrong with Survey Sims - but that area is being covered elsewhere. Where ED shines is in depth Study Sims.

 

Advanced Systems Modelling / Professional (or External) Flight Modelling - or bust! :)

[FoxHoundELite]

well at least ED could add some new 3d model like Su-25SM,Su-27SM,Su-35,Ka-52,F-16F..etc

[lazduc]

Arguing about flight modeling is like arguing about scuba diving with persons that have never participated in the real thing. How can you say this particular modeling is very accurate to the real thing when you have no basis to compare. Sure, some flight characteristics are simply modeled and are apparent. Some flight modeling is more smooth, but to say that this or that is very close to the real thing is unrealistic.

 

As close to reality in flight modeling is as close to the mathematical formulas that identify those forces acting on the various flight surfaces rendered by the most accurate programmer's abilities to match the visual with the math. Does this match or compare to the real thing...hardly. Its simulation. I am satisfied with both FC types and the DCS simulators as they address different tastes.

 

I am not writing about system modeling.

[possumkiller]

How about some turbo-prop love?

[WRAITH]

DCS Sukhoi Su-27SM3 Supporter - Nice

 

Hey all,

 

I voted for Sukhoi Su-27SM3 'Flanker' and its popular!

 

Cheers,

 

:drunk:

[hannibal]

flanker... the plane that started it all...

[possumkiller]

How about a MiG-3 for the warbird collection?

[Xeno426]

Wasn't the Yak-9 more prolific and a generally better design?

[WinterH]

MiG-3, although pretty looking, was more or less obsolete by the mid-war. Any other mid to late war WWII module announced so far could make a snack out of it, heck even early war types may do quite decent against it unless fight occur at high altitude.

 

Not that I have any objection to aircraft not particularly competitive, just saying as general info. One of my most eagerly expected titles is Bf-109E on VEAO's roadmap, so I'm ok with less competitive airframes too :)

 

Although I love old birds a bit more than newer fighters, in case of Russian aircraft, I would actually prefer to see post 50s or even very modern models instead. Su-17/22, Su-24, even Su-15, MiG-23,27, MiG-25 or 31, Su-27SM, Su-30, Su-35, while I am less interested than other, MiG-29 could be nice too (if MiG-29K it would simply be awesome), or actually PFM/ASM rendering of Su-25. I am even open for more MiG-21 variants besides Bis.

 

If, though, Russian WW II aircraft would be made, I'd like to first see an IL-2, I like the plane, and I like ground attack :) if not, Yak-3 or Yak-9 could be nice too. While not particularly liking or interested in, I wouldn't object either to Lavochkin.

[Visceral Raptor]

What about the super-maneuverable Su-37 Terminator? It has canards and thrust-vectoring nozzles too!

 

 

3D thrust vectoring nozzles (pitch, roll, yaw axis):

 

[Flanker52]

Seriously dude? That plane is experimental. How much data do you think is unclassified?

Not to mention it is completely unproven in any war.

 

Why not stick to all the other cool aircraft that have lots of available data so we can get the high-fidelity stuff we're accustomed to.

[Visceral Raptor]

Seriously dude? That plane is experimental. How much data do you think is unclassified?

Not to mention it is completely unproven in any war.

 

Why not stick to all the other cool aircraft that have lots of available data so we can get the high-fidelity stuff we're accustomed to.

 

Good point. I don't want them to sacrifice any fidelity to just do the Su-37, but if they can make it highly realistic and detailed (matching or exceeding current standards of detail/realism), then they should definitely do it!

[jookan]

Yak-40 anyone?

[IICptMillerII]

Not much love for the Foxbat huh? I can understand why. It's capabilities were very exaggerated and it turned out to not be the doomsday Soviet fighter that many thought it would be. That said, I think it would still be a great addition to DCS for a number of reasons, chief among them (for me) being that it fits a "Cold War Gone Hot" scenario very well. I know that this is not a priority aircraft, but I do have hopes that someday it'll become available as a DCS module