GGTharos Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So, while I understand where you're coming from with your questions, the answers to those, even as a paying customer are 'neat to know', and not 'need to know'. I'm not trying to be insulting here, just bluntly put, ED generally isn't in the habit of giving out information that parties outside of ED are not entitled to, no matter how much they may feel they are. You may get a partial answer after FC3 is released, but you'll probably never get the whole story (even us testers/mods often do not, since ED does things that are unrelated to DCS as well and we, er, well, don't need to know). As far as we know, what's going on with FC3 is exactly what Wags said. Yes, we know details, no, we won't tell you, but in the end it isn't particularly interesting information for you anyway. The real interesting question is, at which point in Sept. ED had to face that they won't make it in September as originally stated and what was the initial reason for that? too many small bugs or a unexpected Super Bug they are desperately working on atm? I'd like to know, but they wont tell us except "nothing has changed" I'd suppose if there hadn't be something totally unexpected we already would be up in the air with FC3. why would you announce FC3 for September otherwise, if you already knew before that its totally unrealistic? but what do I know... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotosev Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I need to say something. Why don't you people fly Flaming Cliffs 2 while waiting for next release! It had been builed by the same developers. What we all wait is the next step. The truth for me is after the release of A-10C I stopped messing around with FC2 but now as the release of FC3 delays, I think it's a good time to go back to fast movers. It will help us understand what developers achieved by just doing what they love I believe! So why don't we give them some extra time to do their job. We will all benefit in the end. I hope I calm down some people out there. Finally I hope the release would be before Christmas by saying all these! System specs below Case - Antec Three Hundred PSU - Corsair AX750watt Board - MSI Z170A GAMING PRO CPU - Intel i5 6600K 3900MHz Cooler - CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Memory - Kingston HYPERX 16G DDR4 2400Mhz CL15 Graphics - MSI GEFORCE GTX 980 GAMING 4G SSD - Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2 NVMe Monitor - Philips 277E 27" 1920x1080 60Hz OS - Windows 10 Home 64bit Flight Controllers - Thrustmaster HOTAS WARTHOG, Saitek COMBAT RUDDER PEDALS, TrackIR 4, Track Clip Pro [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JABO2009 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 So, while I understand where you're coming from with your questions, the answers to those, even as a paying customer are 'neat to know', and not 'need to know'. I'm not trying to be insulting here, just bluntly put, ED generally isn't in the habit of giving out information that parties outside of ED are not entitled to, no matter how much they may feel they are. You may get a partial answer after FC3 is released, but you'll probably never get the whole story (even us testers/mods often do not, since ED does things that are unrelated to DCS as well and we, er, well, don't need to know). As far as we know, what's going on with FC3 is exactly what Wags said. Yes, we know details, no, we won't tell you, but in the end it isn't particularly interesting information for you anyway. errrr.... I can't fully share the "in the end it isnt particularly interesting for you anyway approach" here, sry. I'd feel much more comfortable with ED giving us just a little bit more info about the current challenges/troubles they are facing, than the above approach, .....but yes... lets stop this here...ED has its principles and discussing on this won't lead us anywhere. cheers Intel I7 - 10700 K @ 3,80GHz / 64 GB DDR3 / RTX 3090 / Win 10 Home 64 bit / Logitech X56 HOTAS / HP Reverb G2 Running DCS on latest OB version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) /Thread sanitized of all off-topic posts. If you see your post disappearing, do not post it again - chances are it disappeared for a very good reason, ie failure to adhere to forum rules, ignoring a previous moderator request etc etc. Kindly keep it civil and on topic, Gentlemen, if you please. Ta Edited October 30, 2012 by 159th_Viper Linguistic Catastrophe Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisBelle Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 A well deadlight and a reroll of new character in skyrim are keeping me busy right now :) Thats what I say all the time...but everyones ignoring me...THAT´S a reason to complain :megalol: (obviously kidding :P) Milene...for me it is Mass Effect Series + DLC´s besides Skyrim...But I nontheless enjoy flying the Hog since I still got a lot to learn...:book: DCS-Tutorial-Collection BlackSharkDen - Helicopter only Specs:: ASrock Z790 Pro RS; Intel i5-13600K @5,1Ghz; 64GB DDR5 RAM; RTX 3080 @10GB; Corsair RMX Serie 750; 2x SSD 850 EVO 1x860 EVO 500GB 1x nvme M.2 970 EVO 1TB; 1x nvme M.2 980 Pro 2TB+ 3 TB HDD Hardware: Oculus Rift S; Meta Quest 3; HOTAS Warthog; Logitech Rudder Pedals, K-51 Collective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milene Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Thats what I say all the time...but everyones ignoring me...THAT´S a reason to complain :megalol: (obviously kidding :P) Milene...for me it is Mass Effect besides Skyrim Series + DLC´s...But I nontheless enjoy flying the Hog since I still got a lot to learn...:book: Try deadlight à true gem of à game Flanker, Flanker 2.0, Flanker 2.5, Lockon, FC1, FC2,FC3, BS1, BS2, A10C, CA and World [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedaway Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Guys, it's not a 'call of' forum, isn't it? DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Well this thread escalated quickly... steam has a horror sale on for those who are really bored and can't wait ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchking Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 All this whining and complaining about release date. Just shut up and let ED work. We ask them for a quality product...it takes time. Be happy that this will mean some additional features we requested or a more polished product overall. This is why they release no more new info about Nevada or the next module. They will get burned if they misspeak or decide to amend their previous words. WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorcer3r Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 will be the dedicated server a new feature? :-) [sIGPIC]http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b582/sorcerer17/sorcf16-b_zpsycmnwuay.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisBelle Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 will be the dedicated server a new feature? :-) lol :megalol: DCS-Tutorial-Collection BlackSharkDen - Helicopter only Specs:: ASrock Z790 Pro RS; Intel i5-13600K @5,1Ghz; 64GB DDR5 RAM; RTX 3080 @10GB; Corsair RMX Serie 750; 2x SSD 850 EVO 1x860 EVO 500GB 1x nvme M.2 970 EVO 1TB; 1x nvme M.2 980 Pro 2TB+ 3 TB HDD Hardware: Oculus Rift S; Meta Quest 3; HOTAS Warthog; Logitech Rudder Pedals, K-51 Collective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Just shut up and let ED work. Sure, but I wish they would focus on the hardcore Pointy Nose. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigmachine Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Dancing the 'can't afford it anyway-and have falcon 4 BMS to re-learn' dance! (while eating ravioli! :( ) CPU i7-6700K 4,3Ghz, RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666M 2x16GB, GPU Gigabyte Gaming G1 GTX 1080, Monitor Benq 24" 1920x1080 @ 144Hz, MB ASUS Z170-A, OS Win 10 Pro (Creators ED), HOTAS X52 Pro, VR Oculus Rift Cv1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Dancing the 'can't afford it anyway-and have falcon 4 BMS to re-learn' dance! (while eating ravioli! :( ) Don't dance whilst eating. You'll make a mess and get indigestion:D The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisBelle Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Sure, but I wish they would focus on the hardcore Pointy Nose. They focus on what they mean worth focussing to move the Productline forward, thats buisness mixed with trying to fullfill communitywishes...not an easy job at all...so, let them work!! DCS-Tutorial-Collection BlackSharkDen - Helicopter only Specs:: ASrock Z790 Pro RS; Intel i5-13600K @5,1Ghz; 64GB DDR5 RAM; RTX 3080 @10GB; Corsair RMX Serie 750; 2x SSD 850 EVO 1x860 EVO 500GB 1x nvme M.2 970 EVO 1TB; 1x nvme M.2 980 Pro 2TB+ 3 TB HDD Hardware: Oculus Rift S; Meta Quest 3; HOTAS Warthog; Logitech Rudder Pedals, K-51 Collective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwolf Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I agree, I sometime get shocked to see how much some customer are showing anger against the develloper. It shows that they desperately wait for a product they love, but if they love that product so much, shouldn't they pay more respect for the people behind it ? Good luck ED with the release, i'm sure that will be awesome. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven68 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I agree, I sometime get shocked to see how much some customer are showing anger against the develloper. It shows that they desperately wait for a product they love, but if they love that product so much, shouldn't they pay more respect for the people behind it ? Good luck ED with the release, i'm sure that will be awesome. I'm sure it's just a level of frustration and the only way to vent is through these forums. I'm sure ED is probably just as frustrated that they are not able to release it yet, but are well aware of the flames if they do release and it's not stable. It's a damned if you do. Damned if you don't situation. Keep pressing on ED. I will buy whenever it's released. :thumbup: Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6(Assume the latest driver version) Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 10 Professional Oculus Rift-S /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisBelle Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'm sure it's just a level of frustration and the only way to vent is through these forums. If I need to vent my frustration about anythings so I start my super duper Arcade Far Cry 2 Game and kill all the bad boys...that helps me more than trolling around in international forums and risking a warning, a bann or what not, at least wouldnt that help my frustration level...As somewhere else mentioned already...I also still have got to learn enough about the hog...so I prefer the term...a good thing needs its time...so you find me in Africa again :joystick: DCS-Tutorial-Collection BlackSharkDen - Helicopter only Specs:: ASrock Z790 Pro RS; Intel i5-13600K @5,1Ghz; 64GB DDR5 RAM; RTX 3080 @10GB; Corsair RMX Serie 750; 2x SSD 850 EVO 1x860 EVO 500GB 1x nvme M.2 970 EVO 1TB; 1x nvme M.2 980 Pro 2TB+ 3 TB HDD Hardware: Oculus Rift S; Meta Quest 3; HOTAS Warthog; Logitech Rudder Pedals, K-51 Collective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigmachine Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I agree, I sometime get shocked to see how much some customer are showing anger against the develloper. It shows that they desperately wait for a product they love, but if they love that product so much, shouldn't they pay more respect for the people behind it ? Good luck ED with the release, i'm sure that will be awesome. Actually I have to plan what i will buy, since I'm damn poor for soon being 40!! This month i prioritized the dentist twice, and beer while waiting to the realease of FC3.. a Beer-induced buy of CA .. it' 20 days until I get new money.. and I have 60$ to live on.. so of course some get upset, at people that used to deliver when they said it. If it would been fighter-op's, Maddox games or Lead-Pursuit I would just giggle at it! CPU i7-6700K 4,3Ghz, RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666M 2x16GB, GPU Gigabyte Gaming G1 GTX 1080, Monitor Benq 24" 1920x1080 @ 144Hz, MB ASUS Z170-A, OS Win 10 Pro (Creators ED), HOTAS X52 Pro, VR Oculus Rift Cv1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchesterdelta1 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think they have to wait for the release for me for FC3 because my PC did not arrive yet. So ED please wait till my PC arrives and than release it. /sarcasm off Everybody has something Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigmachine Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I think they have to wait for the release for me for FC3 because my PC did not arrive yet. So ED please wait till my PC arrives and than release it. /sarcasm off Everybody has something As I said, I'm no longer in any hurry.. I hardly even care about the release since relearning Falcon BMS 4.32 is a full time job!! (and what do you know.. you can even move the dials and switches in it!, and it's got a (few) dynamic campaigns) EDIT-> Oh and Sarcasm should be a bit witty.. not just unrelated gibberish CPU i7-6700K 4,3Ghz, RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666M 2x16GB, GPU Gigabyte Gaming G1 GTX 1080, Monitor Benq 24" 1920x1080 @ 144Hz, MB ASUS Z170-A, OS Win 10 Pro (Creators ED), HOTAS X52 Pro, VR Oculus Rift Cv1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowhand Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 LoL...Call it what you want...There jones'n for there next Hi speed, 9G, heater up your pipe,Ham fisted,:censored: Yank and Bank :megalol::music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] SMOKE'M:smoke: IF YA GOT'M!:gun_rifle: H2o Cooler I7 9700k GA 390x MB Win 10 pro Evga RTX 2070 8Gig DD5 32 Gig Corsair Vengence, 2T SSD. TM.Warthog:joystick: :punk:, CV-1:matrix:,3x23" monitors, Tm MFD's, Saitek pro rudders wrapped up in 2 sheets of plywood:megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchesterdelta1 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Unrelated gibberish? If thats so it`s just as unrelated as your post. Seriously. Why dont we all just pick a personal date for FC3 to come out for ourself. Edited October 31, 2012 by winchesterdelta1 Go in close, and when you think you are too close, go in closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilnate Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Since everyone is so excited for AC that do not have the fidelity of typical DCS modules, I wonder if there is a lucrative market for this level or detail? Is it against the "rules" for 3rd party developers to make and market F-35, J-30, SU-35, or F-22 at the flaming cliffs level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Since everyone is so excited for AC that do not have the fidelity of typical DCS modules, I wonder if there is a lucrative market for this level or detail? Is it against the "rules" for 3rd party developers to make and market F-35, J-30, SU-35, or F-22 at the flaming cliffs level? Not against the rules. It's just that if you ask, few will say that is what they want from the 3rd parties. Go figure. ;) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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