[VAF] Shocker Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Hello, Ok question is can we get the Aircraft HUD to shake when GAU-8 is fired ? check video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWQiMLO8y2s would be great if could get this to work :) Thanks
AlphaOneSix Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 That's the camera shaking, not the HUD. The pilot doesn't see the HUD vibrate like that.
EvilBivol-1 Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I actually asked a current A-10C pilot when he was flying our A-10C at a trade show whether we should add a little vibration to blur the view when firing the gun. He said no. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
MTFDarkEagle Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Maybe instead of "view"-vibration add some airframe vibration? I'm not going to believe the airframe isn't shaking like hell when you fire that beast.. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Nealius Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Airframe vibration would cause the HUD to vibrate, no? After all the device that projects the HUD is a part of the airframe....
MTFDarkEagle Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Airframe vibration would cause the HUD to vibrate, no? After all the device that projects the HUD is a part of the airframe.... Don't think so really, the HUD is collimated.. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Irregular programming Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Maybe instead of "view"-vibration add some airframe vibration? I'm not going to believe the airframe isn't shaking like hell when you fire that beast.. Well, you can imagine that the aircraft vibrates, since you wouldn't be able to see or feel it anyways. :thumbup:
MTFDarkEagle Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Well, you can imagine that the aircraft vibrates, since you wouldn't be able to see or feel it anyways. :thumbup: Why not? Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Nealius Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Don't think so really, the HUD is collimated.. I'm talking about the device that is inside the dash and actually projects the HUD image onto the glass. If the airframe shakes, wouldn't that device shake as well? Also LOL at the idiots on YouTube who can't tell the difference between real footage and game footage. Edited March 23, 2013 by Nealius
cichlidfan Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 Well, if there is vibration, I would imagine that it would be in excess of 60 cycles/second and if the amplitude were small enough you might not see it. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Hamblue Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 I'm sure the GAU has some type of vibration absorption built in. It might slow the plane some but the vibration would be similar to a car motor. You don't feel the vibrations as the cylinders fire in a car. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
skouras Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 you can always select the key combination for the head shaking inside cockpit before firing the gun...is not much but it is something the real hog pilots can even -smell- the gun:D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]W10(64bit)Asus Rog Strix Z370-F - i7 8700K - Dark Rock Pro 4 - 16 giga ram Corsair vengeance 3000 - MSI RTX 2070 Super - Asus Rog Phobeus soundcard - Z906 Surround speaker - Track ir5 - HOTAS Warthog
Evil.Bonsai Posted March 23, 2013 Posted March 23, 2013 you can always select the key combination for the head shaking inside cockpit before firing the gun...is not much but it is something the real hog pilots can even -smell- the gun:D I set up a trigger via USB. Everytime I pull the trigger for the GAU-8, it sens a small pulse to a small brass bowl here on my desktop. Put a small amount of gunpowder in it. Gets the room smelling REAL Nice :)
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 You do understand that speed washes out any recoil and vibration from the gun. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
cichlidfan Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) You do understand that speed washes out any recoil and vibration from the gun. Please elaborate. :huh: Edited March 25, 2013 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
SmokeyTheLung Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 With the "enable head movement by g-force" option enabled you can definitely descern a subltle shaking when firing the gun. It's the most apparent looking at the outside edge of the viewpoint, if that makes any sense. System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
Harzach Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Well, if there is vibration, I would imagine that it would be in excess of 60 cycles/second and if the amplitude were small enough you might not see it. Yes - 4200rpm = 70hz.
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Please elaborate. :huh: :thumbup: I think the aircraft velocity on final (add to that the stabilization by PAC-1) removes the gun shake simply because the gun is below the pilot and the recoil is overrun by the engines thrust. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Nealius Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Well, obviously the camera that records the HUD shakes, so there is something going on.....is the framerate of the HUD camera at just the right speed to capture the vibration?
PeterP Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Of course there is something going on ... But if you can also see it with your own eyes while sitting in the aircraft , there is sure something wrong with your neck and the natural ability of your brain to cancel out this shaking. Please make a simple test next time you you wash your cloth: First just simply sit on the washing machine while it is in a high spin ...and than press your head directly against it ,to see why the camera shakes. :) Serious: Simulating such vibrations via visuals is plain wrong. Get a buttkicker instead. Edited March 25, 2013 by PeterP
joey45 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 The camera amplifies the vibration. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Madone Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 The camera amplifies the vibration. +1 I think it just doesn't worth it to implement it. Of course you feel a shaking but I hardly think it's really noticeable, it must be an high frequency vibration and if you're based on the camera motion that can be pretty wrong cause it may absorb the vibration differently. Well it's hard to know, I have never fired the gatling personally lol Strike Posture Set CAS Center of Excellence Intel Core i5 4690k @4,6Ghz, Gigabyte GTX 970 OC, Gigabyte Z97-X, 16GB G Skill Sniper @2400, Samsung 860/850 EVO , Win 10 64 bits, Dual monitors 27"@144"Opentrack + TM Warthog + Saitek pro flight combat
Mule Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Just shake your head in a violent manner when you fire it. Problem solved. 2 Fighter Pilot Podcast.
joey45 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Just shake your head in a violent manner when you fire it. Problem solved. Rep.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
snafup Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Just shake your head in a violent manner when you fire it. Problem solved. Or stick your tongue out and make a raspberry noise. Makes for a messy monitor, so have lots of screen wipes ready.
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