rato65 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 If ED would allow the edm's to be exchanged without encryption, the modders could do quite a bit on visual overhaul... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braunn Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 AS a fresh Huey guy with fresh eyes I notice the Huey has lots of potential still for a better game experience. Like loading up the chopper with troops or whatever, you can actually see them, would be an experience booster. Maybe easier to accomplish would be LIGHTS. Landing and search light is not even close to realistic performance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obic Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I still think they should go the Black shark III like upgrade/update way for like 15-20$ ? Revised texture and model Modernized Early or late 1990's avionics Improved A.I & Co-pilot Revised Armament Add troops movement in and out 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 yes. this bir is more than one decade old. new things and facelift is a must. very outdated 2 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_VR Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Would especially like to see troops in the back. Hope we get these sort of improvements for the Chinook. Happy landings, Talisman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/17/2024 at 11:50 AM, Obic said: I still think they should go the Black shark III like upgrade/update way for like 15-20$ ? Revised texture and model Modernized Early or late 1990's avionics Improved A.I & Co-pilot Revised Armament Add troops movement in and out I dont understand about "Revised Armament"... Troop movement in and out has a feature outside of UH-1 Module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) What I think a UH-1H MLU absolutely have to include: 1) All switches conform to the current DCS standard; <Left-Click> = switch upward / to the left / forward, <Right-Click> = switch downward / to the right / aft. 2) Dials: <Left-Click> = turn one step to the left, <Right-Click> = turn one step to the right. 3) Scroll-wheel down = turn dial to the left, scroll-wheel up = dial to the right. 1), 2), 3) When a switch or dial has reached its furthest possible movement, additional input does NOTHING, NO TOGGLES, movement only conform to the DCS norms PERIOD. 4) All dials, twist-knobs must be bindable to a physical dial / twist-knob, and (On)/Off switches to simulate using a dial. 5) ALL two or more way switches must be bindable to two or more way switches; for example the Pilot Sight currently only works with a keypress. It has no OFF or UP state, so it cannot properly use an assignment to a toggle switch. 6) Graphics have to be cleaned up. I use VR (an Oculus CV1 still) and I can only read many instruments and texts by pressing my nose against the instrument panel. Admittedly, the CV1 is now at the low-end of VR equipment, but still, there is much room for improvement, because even on my 2K monitor it's not that much better. The Cold War Era has been approaching for a long time now, and the F-4E is just around the corner, along with the MiG-29, MiG-23, MiG-(one of the teens {too lazy to look now}], the Kola map... things are moving. Common ED, don't sleep through this opportunity! It's almost free money! Edited January 18 by Captain Orso 4 When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stackup Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/18/2024 at 8:32 AM, Silver_Dragon said: I dont understand about "Revised Armament" Well for starters, you don't need the front hardpoints unless you're mounting the miniguns, yet we only have one option for external hardpoints, either off or on. We should be able to have door guns with the smaller mounts only and it would be nice to have an options to remove the wire cutters and flare pods separately like we can already with the exhaust deflector. https://www.museumofflight.org/exhibits-and-events/aircraft/bell-uh-1h-iroquois-huey Carrying rockets does not require the front mounts either. I'm not sure what exactly all is listed in the H manuals, but other items like the dual M60 mounts and miniguns all use the same mounting hardpoint system already present on the Huey in DCS, so those wanting a more Vietnam-esque look could benefit from those additions since it is unlikely we get a B,C, D, etc. version and the system is capable of mounting these whether or not the H ever did. Here's a shot of a Huey with the enclosed 7 shot rocket pod (which is already in game on other modules such as the F-5, A-10, F-16, etc.) as opposed to the bare tube style we have. Should be an easy addition. There's a multitude of other weapon systems that attach to the mounts we have now and should not require any extra work be done in the cockpit. Other items such as AGM-22's, BGM-71 ITOW, the nose 40mm grenade launcher(the selector switch still shows this although I don't think the H ever used it), and other various things would need a larger rework and probably a different model entirely. AGM-22 still utilizes the standard mount we have in game although it would need cockpit modifications ITOW- note the camera pod in the bottom left side of the nose 40mm grenade launcher Of course the H probably never carried a large portion of the weapons used by the Huey in Vietnam, field-modded or not (although it did see service towards the end of the war), but it would be very interesting to get a more well rounded picture of the Huey's combat service to include a facelift and ideally an earlier variant that can utilize all the weapons mentioned above that the H never did (or couldn't). Especially once ED starts work on the Vietnam map they have said they will do in the future. Just some thoughts and wishes as this is after all a wishlist thread. Hopefully ED will at least give us a rework with the proper door gun mounts (for doorguns only use) and allow various hardpoints to be removed separately like the line cutters, flare pods, and forward minigun mounts. That at least would be much appreciated and proper for our H model. 2 Aircraft: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-5E, FC3, AV-8B, Mirage 2000C, L-39, Huey, F-86, P-51, P-47, Spitfire, Mosquito, Supercarrier Maps: Persian Gulf, Syria, NTTR, Marianas, Normandy 2, Channel Upcoming Modules Wishlist: A-7E, A-6E, F-4, F-8J, MiG-17F, A-1H, F-100D, Kola Peninsula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 If ED doesn't have any update plans, at least they can give this task/opportunity to the modders or 3rd party developers. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Orso Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I don't really think they would do that. It would require ED giving their source code out-of-house, and I cannot imagine any software house making such a move. 1 When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmover Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 At least a texture update would be a good start 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper117 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 9 hours ago, slowmover said: At least a texture update would be a good start Absolutely agree with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 FC3 Update released out of blue. Maybe they also have some plans for our ancient birds 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper117 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 5 hours ago, ebabil said: Maybe they also have some plans for our ancient birds Let's hope so, but I'm not holding my breath... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 1/24/2024 at 2:15 AM, Stackup said: Of course the H probably never carried a large portion of the weapons used by the Huey in Vietnam, field-modded or not (although it did see service towards the end of the war), but it would be very interesting to get a more well rounded picture of the Huey's combat service to include a facelift and ideally an earlier variant that can utilize all the weapons mentioned above that the H never did (or couldn't). Especially once ED starts work on the Vietnam map they have said they will do in the future. Just some thoughts and wishes as this is after all a wishlist thread. Hopefully ED will at least give us a rework with the proper door gun mounts (for doorguns only use) and allow various hardpoints to be removed separately like the line cutters, flare pods, and forward minigun mounts. That at least would be much appreciated and proper for our H model. I think ED has made it very clear, that they are not going to make fantasies or grafts in the post of gameplay, no matter how much a map of Vietnam comes (examples on F-16/18/AH-64/future CH-47F) If someone wants a version with said weapons, let some 3rd party make a B/C/D module based on a 1960s UH-1 and not "disguise" an H version as a B/C. Same with a Twin N, naval or marine version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 4 ED Team Share Posted March 4 We do like to revisit older modules occasionally, but it very much depends on having free dev time available, and currently our teams are very busy. We have no plans to change the spec of our UH-1H. thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stackup Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 10 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said: F-16/18 I was under the impression based on some stuff I've seen in various places that there was a large debate on whether or not the F-16 could carry fire all 4 HARMs it can carry and whether or not it should have the Litening II or the LANTIRN pod. Fantasy vs. reality seems to be up for debate depending on the exact date and block number being modelled. Some things I've seen about the F-18 seem to say that it shouldn't have some versions of the AGM-84 that it does. And then some additions to the Ka-50 also have caused sketpicism as to what is really supposed to be there and what isn't. Not saying these are incorrect, but I have seen information in various posts that seem to have it both ways so who's to say that certain items aren't fantasy? Is it ED because they make the modules? Or is it up to the various SMEs and manuals that may also have conflicting information to the aircraft as presented. To be clear, I only want them to add proper door gun mounts (for doorguns only use) and allow various hardpoints to be removed separately like the line cutters, flare pods, and forward minigun mounts. These are verifiably UH-1H capabilities and as such should be added to the module as development time permits. Why they weren't added in the first place, who knows... As for the other stuff, sure make a new version, I want a period correct version just as much as the next guy, which I also said that in my post but apparently you ignored that part. 10 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said: I think ED has made it very clear, that they are not going to make fantasies or grafts in the post of gameplay Well they have, take the F-5 for instance. The AIM-9J has been in DCS since last year and yet we are living in a fantasy world where the DCS F-5 doesn't have access to the AIM-9J when it verifiably had access to it in real life. I would classify not having it as a fantasy. I mean they added the AIM-9P3 to it and that one is newer in game than the J. Then there's the debate on gun dispersion and the accuracy of the gunsight. There's also the various issues with AI weapons like the S-3B. In what world did the S-3B ever field the USAF variants of the AGM-65 like the D? It didn't, it used the Navy versions, which despite being in game already aren't available to the S-3 and instead we get the USAF ones which it shouldn't have. Definitely a fantasy addition. ED can say whatever they want, but actions speak a whole lot louder than words. Simple fixes like adding another correct Sidewinder to the F-5 or correcting the Mavericks on the S-3 are just ignored or take forever to fix leaving those aircraft in a fantasy state. Edited March 4 by Stackup 1 Aircraft: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-5E, FC3, AV-8B, Mirage 2000C, L-39, Huey, F-86, P-51, P-47, Spitfire, Mosquito, Supercarrier Maps: Persian Gulf, Syria, NTTR, Marianas, Normandy 2, Channel Upcoming Modules Wishlist: A-7E, A-6E, F-4, F-8J, MiG-17F, A-1H, F-100D, Kola Peninsula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) I was under the impression based on some stuff I've seen in various places that there was a large debate on whether or not the F-16 could carry fire all 4 HARMs it can carry and whether or not it should have the Litening II or the LANTIRN pod. Fantasy vs. reality seems to be up for debate depending on the exact date and block number being modelled. Some things I've seen about the F-18 seem to say that it shouldn't have some versions of the AGM-84 that it does. And then some additions to the Ka-50 also have caused sketpicism as to what is really supposed to be there and what isn't. Not saying these are incorrect, but I have seen information in various posts that seem to have it both ways so who's to say that certain items aren't fantasy? Is it ED because they make the modules? Or is it up to the various SMEs and manuals that may also have conflicting information to the aircraft as presented. To be clear, I only want them to add proper door gun mounts (for doorguns only use) and allow various hardpoints to be removed separately like the line cutters, flare pods, and forward minigun mounts. These are verifiably UH-1H capabilities and as such should be added to the module as development time permits. Why they weren't added in the first place, who knows... As for the other stuff, sure make a new version, I want a period correct version just as much as the next guy, which I also said that in my post but apparently you ignored that part. Well they have, take the F-5 for instance. The AIM-9J has been in DCS since last year and yet we are living in a fantasy world where the DCS F-5 doesn't have access to the AIM-9J when it verifiably had access to it in real life. I would classify not having it as a fantasy. I mean they added the AIM-9P3 to it and that one is newer in game than the J. Then there's the debate on gun dispersion and the accuracy of the gunsight. There's also the various issues with AI weapons like the S-3B. In what world did the S-3B ever field the USAF variants of the AGM-65 like the D? It didn't, it used the Navy versions, which despite being in game already aren't available to the S-3 and instead we get the USAF ones which it shouldn't have. Definitely a fantasy addition. ED can say whatever they want, but actions speak a whole lot louder than words. Simple fixes like adding another correct Sidewinder to the F-5 or correcting the Mavericks on the S-3 are just ignored or take forever to fix leaving those aircraft in a fantasy state. Yeah... the "ED lies".... Before make some claims.... check what armament implement make BSK on the UH-1H module and what never was implemented..... M60 guns was modeled but never implement, as others. And other "funtionality", never was confirmed by BSK. The AI discussion has very funny.... we dont know what age version was builded on the S-3B, the ASW version or the post only ASuW version... when has some weapons, no implemented yet as Mk46 asw Torpedoes, and other, as the Maveriks. On fact, the 3D modelers make a ASW version with the sonobouys antennas and MAD boom..., and the AI builders has "imported" the old lomac configuration with the wrong armament ASuW. Edited March 5 by Silver_Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted March 5 ED Team Share Posted March 5 This has become more of an argument thread than a wish list thread. If you have individual things you would like to wish for on the Huey, please make a separate thread. This one is closed. Thanks 2 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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