Rainmaker
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RB stating they were not being currently developed? You’re here but don’t know. RB doesn't even have a store. And no, there are no links. Take less breaks. Pay more attention to what is going on.
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You wanna post the rest of the context of that screenshot or no? Screenshot has nothing to do with further development in its current state. Development is not currently on-going. Perfectly meets the definition of being unsupported at this time. Has absolutely nada to do with whether the RB team is still intact or not. There, I’ll add the context for you.
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Do we ignore the ones without coder support or nah? Asking for a friend
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Shadow-removing posts now are we? I’m taking pictures as I post BTW.
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That’s fine. Those were rhetorical questions anyway. Or maybe ones for the consumer to be asking themselves. As for me….don’t worry….I’m looking right past ya.
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NL, lets be honest here. It is that easy and you know perfectly well it is. It isn’t because of simple reasons. A. The individual doesn’t want to or B. Funds not available to do so. Lets not make that out to be any harder than it is. The individuals who paid for the module are having their funds used as a ‘carrot’, chess piece, whatever you want to call it. That’s easily not the case if individuals so chose for it not to be that way. Was anyone asked if they wanted their funds to be used in that fashion? That really looking out for the customer? Choices are being made to do that. End of story.
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Well, I’m sure the paying customers didn’t pay their money to be held as a litigation tool between parties either, nor was that their intent for it, but here we are. So, talk to yo people, have them pay those people that put forth the man hours to put the -15 in the game (pretty sure that was the buyers intent), and everyone else can go back to doing what they were doing 2 months ago. After that, the two at the top can go have whatever jousting match they wanna have and leave everyone else, and the money they spent out of it. Sounds like pretty darn easy solution to me. Pretty sure no one would continue to feel ‘punished’ after that right?
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Additionally, that guy, is probably his own worst enemy when it comes to social media. Someone make me God for a day and I will change all his passwords....along with about another 1000 public figures (I have a list) in the world. Consider that a promise.
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I dunno?!? I would just ask, where's the money gonna come from? Rational question I feel like. I don't feel like there ever was an intent to pack up and leave which was what a bunch of initial claims were from the community. 'Oh, they are just abandoning ship, taking our money and running'. Remember when everyone was accusing the CEOs statement of being made up and surely they had been paid? Surely no one works this long without payment? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Probably still remnants of that in this thread most likely. Where are we at now? Everyone put that speculation to be since it's been confirmed? In the end,, money has to come from somewhere. Developers have to eat and provide for their family. You have spent it, the people that are wanting to support it don't have it. That's where we are. The end question for the consumer needs to be, "Are you okay with the money you paid not being in the hands of the person who spent hours at their computer making it for you?'. Or in the hands of someone who didn't? That's for everyone else to decide. Me personally, not a fan. That $50 everyone spent (only speaking for one module here) won't get anyone very far these days, certainly not me. I have one bill under that, can't fill the gas tank, etc etc. But that conglomerate of money turns in to tens of thousands and likely hundreds of thousands of dollars for those who spent 5+ years developing something on the idea that they would be able to use the rewards from that to pay their bills, provide for family, and someday maybe have a retirement. Right now, that's not happening. The whole ordeal is much grander than what equates to a hobby for me. Just my $0.02
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Well, right now there are no refunds, store credit? Wanna guess where the money stays? And what could less sales receipts of the F-15 do? I’ll let everyone else solve that equation. You can only work on the premise of an IOU for so long. That time has come. So, no, I can sit there and agree that the community is being held for ransom. Unfortunate bystander? Yes. Agreed. The way I see it, that IOU is now years old, not months. Years of dev time on the idea that it equates to food on the table at the end of the day.
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And if there was no probable cause? Then what? So far, there was a very broad-brush accusation made to IP infringement. Why respond at all if that’s the case? The payments that were never made support both you and the devs that have rack up thousands of man-hours in order to get to a releasable state. That happened, and there has been no compensation. You honestly think it got to this point without any prior deliberation? That you were the first choice at the negotiating table? If not, I stand by what I stated the first time. You were never ‘held hostage’ over anything. The customer is a result of fallout, that’s it. If you find that tree that magically grows money, I’m sure development could continue. Until then, there is an end state and the road ends. The pavers have no money to work. Matter of fact, they are in the negative. You could have seen the same scenario play out 6,7,8 months ago instead of now, but you didn’t…you were given continued support and not ‘held hostage’ instead. As for venting over the module as a customer, you don’t know me all that well obviously. The module doesnt mean that much to me. I started playing DCS again to support the module, and basically nothing more. I can easily leave it behind and do something else. What I do care about is good people, that I personally know, giving up 1000s of personal hours for unpaid work while someone else gets to play with the money as they see fit. And so far, again, that’s based on a very broad-brushed claim that’s been made, without a court decision mind you, that someone is guilty of something based on a single-part opinion. Not a court opinion, a single party. So yes, forgive me if I take a side over someone’s income source to make a living vs someone’s hobby. But don’t assume you have any idea about what I know or my reason for being here.
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Oh. So in your mind, continue to work for free? Cater to you and not the income developers deserve for their work? How non-selfish of you to consider you are not the only party involved. There was statement made. The one that likely had to be made, instead of just being silent, with no development. Was it does to influence opinion? Probably. Was it done to ‘punish’ you? Like…seriously? Think of that beyond the fact that just you exist.
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Punish? You mean like the last 10 months they worked without pay to support the module? That punishment? I think you need to be looking at this from a different perspective.
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Perhaps look into the high possibility, based on pretty credible reports, that this isn't the first time this has happened before 'assuming' everything has to be a certain way.
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Are you not keeping up with things? Speculation?
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Personal opinion, I would not be looking to ED to do that. More a single, or very few, particular individuals.
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Again, you constantly leave bread crumbs wherever you go. You had one guy that was basically acting just as childish as you became. You posted with the intent of trolling/stirring the pot, then continued just to try and justify a reason to complain. Then further trying egg it on via forum posts. ‘Underbred’. ‘Take your pills’ ring a bell here? Again, you and ONE other person, both acting like children
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You got in a discord spat with another person, and looking at your post history over there, was quite literally your first significant post over there, obviously looking for a confrontation with someone. Then you are off elsewhere to complain to everyone else about someone else’s behavior towards you. Yes, that’s playing the ‘me’ card. Subsequent posts show a history of nothing more than trying to grind an ax over the same. You had people at the time telling that both sides were acting like children yet you conveniently left that part out. Haven’t agreed with Hammer on a single thing so far in this thread, but finding myself doing it now. Your follow-up posts inviting confrontation over a group of people to do nothing but create more confrontation just adds to it. You are trying to play a game that you can’t play very well.
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My gosh….would you stop trying to play the ‘me’ card n this thread over and over. Perhaps social media in general is not the place for you.
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Pot call kettle?!? Try harder than that….the entire community deserves it.
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Indeed. Vague without substance doesnt help the situation either. If what the more-vocal side has said is true. A. The claim has nothing has nothing to do with DCS or the modules within B. It relates to a module (if you wanna call it that), that doesn’t exist in anything that’s usable to this point. Take from all that what you wish. That’s all in what you want to believe to be the case.
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CDES does not properly update designations in real time on movers. It's a known issue. So yes, in a way, if all other things are being done right, it's likely a contributor to the issue or the main cause. As has been mentioned earlier, the designation needs to lead the target to get the bomb in the right 'basket' to track the laser.
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No need to speculate on any of that really. Read the statement from NG on what is being accused, and it has nothing to do with what you are thinking.
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There is not.
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When you have something useful to bring to the table besides 'trust me I know cause I followed them' then you can let the rest of us know. Until then...pretty much a waste of time.
