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No, we were focused on our own products with a big release, 3rd parties are responsible for their products. I was giving my best opinion based on the area compared to Syria, but ORT has to tell us the reason, until we hear I don't know for sure, either way.

We are waiting on the reason for the change from the 3rd Party, we don't know for sure what happened. This was a guess, this is why we are waiting for an answer here.

The map is by a 3rd Party, we do not review or control their changes. The patch notes are supplied by the 3rd Party. This was a surprise to us as well, hence we are asking for info as well.

That's the definition of Off Topic, keep this about concerns over the changes and not anything else. Thanks This has nothing to do with Nick, please do not confuse this change with anything else.

We have requested info as well, so I am sure it won't take the weekend.

Nobody is going to hide this thread, I told people on DIscord to come here and comment. Thanks

Guys, I asked you to come here to ask and express your concerns, but please do it maturely and constructively even if you are upset. Also, realize it's Friday, and they are most likely not currently awake, so don't expect an answer this second. Thanks

DCS: CH-47F Landing (COMING SOON)

Self-fulfilling prophecy ... should be checking this out today

DCS: CH-47F Taxi and Takeoff (COMING SOON)

I think it's simply because the team is focused on more important systems and features right now, having a deeper system experience would be fun for many, I think combat systems and such are leading in priority right now.

I know we have talked about localized weather, how or what that would look like I am unsure right now.

The pages are present. We may add further functionality, later after early access, but a very low priority and not in current planning. Thanks

2 & 4 are reported already, I will look at the rest soon.

This already happens. On the other things, we are currently working on fog layers once that is complete we will see what the team has in store next for weather.

I am seeing formations having issues as well, I have reported both. Thanks!

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So I replied late last night I should expand. The mission is set up to have 4 groups form up from 2 different airfields. 1 Group has you as a pilot, so these groups are set up to follow one lead unit which is all AI. In that time, travel to waypoint 1 is 29nm away at 12000 feet. The distance to 20,000 feet can be done in 10 minutes roughly at normal power. But the mission is asking for a distance of 10 minutes, to nearly half that altitude, limited to a set speed which I feel is slower for the rate of climb they are expected, and again asking 3 AI groups and 1 Player group to form up before this. COnsider the AI in the formation, if the lead is set to a set speed, the other AI in that group may have to slow or speed up to maintain, if its very restrictive (and in this case slower than it needs to be) the AI will struggle to maintain. The AI is AI, an all-player-controlled group could think about this, form up and then climb, but the AI is being told to do it all at once. It would make more sense to set up a more up WP after take off, then allow a proper climb speed either for the requested altitude, I feel that 12000 feet, could be a little faster. In WWII missions I usually set up an orbit to allow some sort of time to allow all aircraft to get airborne and then form up somewhat. You can set an orbit until a set time or condition. Once this is met, then sending them on their way ends up working better.

Is this your mission if I may ask? The reason why I ask is that from take-off to WP1 the speed is set to 157kn, this is much too slow so you have the AI trying to fly slower than expected, but also keep up with their own formation, and then follow others. The AI will 'cheat' a little to hold formation, but it looks and feels worse when they are flying outside normal limits. Try increasing the speed to WP1. I suggest increasing this to achieve the altitude you have set at WP.

Hey thanks all, I am on station now. I will digest this and see if I can see what is going on.

Just an update, I am waiting on an answer from the AI guys on this to see if it was intended or not. The current solution to this right now is to add another AI push to change RTB on Bingo fuel to 'AAR REFUEL or RTB' and I think keep the 'Refueling' AI push to make sure the AI doesn't RTB. Right now "No RTB on Bingo" is setting refuel from any source to 'off' so the AI will not attempt to refuel anywhere. This being 'off' you need to turn it on when you want the AI to refuel and at a time you want them to. "AAR REFUEL or RTB" turns the refuelling back 'on' and they will refuel from the closest source, having 'Refueling' there ensures they will head to the tanker.

Just checked, already reported, thanks!

Thanks I will pass along to the team soon.

So I checked in our Dev build in the next release candidate and it worked fine, I did verify its not working in the release version so I am guessing its fixed internally. I will leave this open and you can report back after the next release either way. Thanks!

Thanks all, I am looking into this.