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When flying though I don't think move X control Y amount, I think move the control until I get the desired reaction. Most flying if done smoothly you hardly see the controls move at all although some stuff does require being more aggressive like sling loading, mostly to stop the load quickly if it starts to swing.

I don't worry so much about a direct 1 to 1 movement of the controls to the real thing. However helicopters are extremely sensitive to control inputs. When I was a flight instructor I'd tell student to only think about what they wanted the helicopter to do and not to think about moving the controls because when you think "bank left" your hand will subconsciously drift a little left and that was all the input needed. Otherwise students end up over controlling. I also taught students to try to keep cyclic movements down to the size of a silver dollar, then a quarter, then a nickel, then a dime and that helps them get smoother on the controls. So couple that sensitivity with a short armed joystick instead of a long armed cyclic and you lose a lot of your fine control. Also most joysticks have centering springs you have to fight against. Most helicopters I've flown the cyclic will just flop over to one side or the other if you let go of it in flight. A few have force trim where it will hold it in place for you until you press a button to make an adjustment or like in the 500 where you make a movement then take the pressure off with the trim hat.

1. I doubt Wags preferences for a theatre or aircraft will drive decisions. 2. I want korea but they haven't shown any interest in doing more korea assets or modules. 3. We have a free modern map and WW2 aircraft have the highest profit margins. So my guess is it's a WW2 map to help drive and popularize WW2 module sales.

Link isn't working. And agreed it would be nice to have.

Well with hat in hand I defer to the actual Gazelle pilot then. Thank you for your input Damcopter.

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Why is it strange? I fly with this https://pro-flight-trainer-com.myshopify.com/ in vr. I'd say the HIP has the best helicopter flight model in DCS but both it and the Huey suffer from exaggerated VRS, being both too easy to get into and too difficult to get out of. I'm guessing it's scripted. Anyway the Gazelle is not without flaws. But sitting in it in VR with the cyclic collective setup it feels more like I expect a light fully articulated helicopter to feel like then the huey feels like a huey. Admittedly I have no IRL gaz flight time but I have 700 hours in an md-500 and it feels pretty similar to that. I only have 66 hours in a real Huey but its all pretty recent. My point is the Gaz feels believeable to me and if we want to pick nits where are the pitchforks for the other helicopters? Why is the hate focused on the Gazelle? Oh well, I like it. We're not going to change each others minds.

Maybe we could get a place in line for the Yak? Not a timeline but something like "we'll work on it after P-47" or "after damage model"? I know timelines are impossible but some kind of commitment?

Thanks Danvac, I run VR though and try to avoid mods. I appreciate the work around but I don't think it should be incumbent on the purchaser to fix a product.

Hardly. I know my experiences and opinions on the matter. I try to be an asset and share them. You don't see me bashing the Huey on its forum because it is close enough. But when they asked for help from pilots I offered and took the video of the TOT gauge in autorotation for them but haven't heard back yet. If people don't care for my input on the matter that doesn't bother me. But if one pilot can get on and say the Gazelle FM isn't any good I can come here and disagree. Draw you own conclusions and enjoy your confirmation bias. I think anyone who expects a desktop sim to fly 100% accurate to a real helicopter is insane though.

Maybe? I fly with 16AGR.

Fair enough then man but if thats the case I hate to tell you IMHO the Huey flight model needs a lot of work. I prefer the Gazelle to the Huey in the game because I fly the real Huey and this one drives me nuts. Don't get me wrong it falls into the "close enough" category but it doesn't feel like the real thing to me.

The B-17's currently look quite nice but are piloted by ghosts. Could we please get some pilot and gunner models added inside them?

I'm also disappointed with the lack of updates to this module. It feels like it isn't being cared for.

I bought this module because it was supposed to be integrated into the L-39's radios and nav system. I now have an ILS radio in my L-39 that cannot talk to the HSI. Please address this. Also the knobs are so sensitive I have a hard time entering coordinates or even entering an airport identifier. I've tried scrolling with the mouse and end up on the outer or inner knob when I mean the other and I've bound them to hotas buttons and its a struggle to not over shoot. Could they turn slower? It has been an unreasonable amount of time since we've had news or an update on this module. Are only flagship modules supported?

I know it's a long way off but I'm excited for this one.

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Awesome!

I'm a real helicopter pilot too and I'm happy with the Gazelle. The two points I'd like to see improved are multicrew and that control damping. In a real helicopter I can move the controls full deflection as fast as I want unless the hydraulics fail. It might break the helicopter doing that but thats why you don't. As the damping stands now I make an input and don't get the desired response when I expect to causing me to over correct. The flight model as a whole feels pretty good as is reminiscent of flying an MD-500 to me. This is an argument we've had over and over though. Yea it's a sim but it's also a game, not a flight training device. Flying helicopters is hard. On average it takes people 10 hours of practice just to learn to hover. Do you really want to spend 10 FREAKING hours just practicing hovering before you can use a helicopter module you bought? If you want to learn how to fly a real helicopter turn off DCS find a flight school and go take an intro flight. I fly helicopters for a living. I enjoy the Gazelle. I hope Polychop can fix multicrew but I'm going to continue to support their future releases.

I'd really like to see a F-111. It would bring something new to DCS. I understand everyone wanting the Tornado, but it is likely not possible in DCS. I hope you guys get it, but from what I've been told Panavia has flat out said no. Hopefully that's bad information...

I think it would be awesome to lase targets for Hornet's, Harriers, Warthogs, and tomcats with the Kiowa. And I don't know if trees block radar but they are collideable and block weapons.

Pensacola so that would be Paul. Really good guy and a good pilot. Just wish he'd drop his navy flying habits haha.

You can find a Florida forest service(the people who own that Huey) livery in the user files, I got someone to make it for me when I used to fly for them ;)

I love this sim and am happy to support it. I'd also like to add that I really appreciate ED listening to feedback on two important issue, giving us an offline mode, and not letting the carrier DLC divide the online community.

A very sincere thank you for listening to our feedback! This is a great goodwill gesture which we really appreciate.