dartuil Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 So tomorrow Ill see wags crashing F-15C and SU-27. :) Cant wait. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
Raven_Morpheus Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Quite disappointed to not see any sort of a release on the horizon in the latest newsletter. Forgive me for saying this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of hassle for it, but I'm starting to wonder if whilst people continue buying DCS1 content there's any incentive for ED to release DCS2? Just getting a bit tired of the "it's not ready yet" routine. Again apologies for saying so.
SilentGun Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Hey, what happened to the terrain screenshots in the first post? Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:)
Ultra Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Quite disappointed to not see any sort of a release on the horizon in the latest newsletter. Forgive me for saying this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of hassle for it, but I'm starting to wonder if whilst people continue buying DCS1 content there's any incentive for ED to release DCS2? Just getting a bit tired of the "it's not ready yet" routine. Again apologies for saying so. But looking from a sales perspective, as you are, they'll want the huge boost in sales from the release of 2.0. it's sure to bring back most people who may not be playing DCS lately. And it will allow sales of the new Nevada map! Big Money! :D Edited June 21, 2015 by Ultra
leafer Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Forgive me for saying this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of hassle for it, but I'm starting to wonder if whilst people continue buying DCS1 content there's any incentive for ED to release DCS2? All DCSW1 modules will work in DCSW2. Unless there're other contents I don't know about? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Python Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Quite disappointed to not see any sort of a release on the horizon in the latest newsletter. Forgive me for saying this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of hassle for it, but I'm starting to wonder if whilst people continue buying DCS1 content there's any incentive for ED to release DCS2? Just getting a bit tired of the "it's not ready yet" routine. Again apologies for saying so. Of course they have an incentive. DCS2 will not only future proof their product, but it will make it much better which will increase the sales ultimately. You're overthinking it. DCS2 is very much in development and I'm sure ED want it out as much as the rest of us. But it is a complex piece of software and bugs etc will inevitably arise, they just want to make sure it is up to standard when it releases and this takes time. It will be here soon enough. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
joebloggs Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Quite disappointed to not see any sort of a release on the horizon in the latest newsletter. Forgive me for saying this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of hassle for it, but I'm starting to wonder if whilst people continue buying DCS1 content there's any incentive for ED to release DCS2? Just getting a bit tired of the "it's not ready yet" routine. Again apologies for saying so. The part I'm disappointed about is that this has left me not knowing if I should sell my Oculus Rift. I have kept hold of it just to see what it was like in DCS 2, but now having no estimated release date has left me not knowing what to do with it. They haven't even said if we are looking at this year and with the VR headsets out early next year you can see my dilemma. I just wish they hadn't waited until June to say that they don't have a release date after the Feb news letter. Edited June 21, 2015 by joebloggs
Revelation Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 The part I'm disappointed about is that this has left me not knowing if I should sell my Oculus Rift. I have kept hold of it just to see what it was like in DCS 2, but now having no estimated release date has left me not knowing what to do with it. They haven't even said if we are looking at this year and with the VR headsets out early next year you can see my dilemma. I just wish they hadn't waited until June to say that they don't have a release date after the Feb news letter. You really aren't going to see much of an improvement in your OR with DCW2. The Rift's main issue is the pixelation in the display. DCW2 isn't going to magically make things better. Even if DCSW2 increases performance for VR, your hardware will be the biggest hurdle. The only benefit I see that could come is Direct HMD access versus running it in Extended Mode. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
joebloggs Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) You really aren't going to see much of an improvement in your OR with DCW2. The Rift's main issue is the pixelation in the display. DCW2 isn't going to magically make things better. Even if DCSW2 increases performance for VR, your hardware will be the biggest hurdle. The only benefit I see that could come is Direct HMD access versus running it in Extended Mode. I think the high res in DCS 2 should make it look much better then it is at present in DK2, but my problem is whether or not to sell my DK2 right now. I mean, if they were going to release this in 2 to 3 months time I would probably hold of selling. I just thought they would have had a clearer picture about a release date by now, but I understand they want this released in good order. Edited June 21, 2015 by joebloggs
Raven68 Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 but they didnt have release date at all But they did have several estimations...:music_whistling: Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
NoJoe Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Huh, looks like most of the screenshots have been removed from the first post.
Revelation Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 I think the high res in DCS 2 should make it look much better then it is at present in DK2, High res? DCS is already "high res" I can run DCS at 4k if I so wish. That does not improve the quality of the image displayed in the DK2. The DK2 is limited in its hardware capabilities. but my problem is whether or not to sell my DK2 right now. Sell it, problem solved. DCSW2 WILL NOT greatly improve your experience with DK2. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
joebloggs Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Higher resolution ground terrain mesh and textures for new maps (between 1 and 64 meters per pixel depending on area of map and clipmap level) Improved Oculus Rift support @Revelation - The above tells me you are wrong. How can it not look any different when DCS2 will have higher resolution ground terrain mesh and textures? It will also play a lot smoother hence the reason they mention Improved Oculus Rift Support. Edited June 21, 2015 by joebloggs
cichlidfan Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Higher resolution ground terrain mesh and textures for new maps (between 1 and 64 meters per pixel depending on area of map and clipmap level) That only applies to new maps. There will be no changes to the current map. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
joey45 Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 but my problem is whether or not to sell my DK2 right now. Sell it. Unless you play it with other games. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
joebloggs Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 That only applies to new maps. There will be no changes to the current map. I know, I have the NTTR map in mind.
cichlidfan Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 I know, I have the NTTR map in mind. Which may, or may not, be released at the same time as DCS 2.0. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
rrohde Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Which may, or may not, be released at the same time as DCS 2.0. I believe that NTTR will be used to show off the new capabilities of EDGE; even though I wouldn't mind if they release EDGE as part of DCS 2.0 alpha with the current Caucasus map with EDGE treatment. :) That would give us something new to play with, and ED had more time to tweak NTTR... PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
Revelation Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Higher resolution ground terrain mesh and textures for new maps (between 1 and 64 meters per pixel depending on area of map and clipmap level) That will make no difference on DK2.... If you can't understand the limiting factor here, then you should sell your DK2 and buy an xBoxOne. @Revelation - The above tells me you are wrong. How can it not look any different when DCS2 will have higher resolution ground terrain mesh and textures? This comment tells me that you have no clue what you are talking about. I don't care how much lipstick you put on a donkey, it's still a donkey. AGAIN... With the DK2 screen you WILL NOT notice a difference. It will also play a lot smoother hence the reason they mention Improved Oculus Rift Support. Speculative... I also stated that IF they change from Extended Mode to Direct HMD then you may see an improvement, but that will fall on your hardware. At the moment DCS is using Extended Mode which means the DK2 will be limited to the refresh rate of your Monitor. So while I have been brief in this discussion you have failed to actually ready anything I have typed and continued to live in this make believe world that DCSW2 will make everything better on the DK2 - IT WON'T. Even CV1 may not give the best possible experience. Edited June 21, 2015 by Revelation Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
outlawal2 Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Which may, or may not, be released at the same time as DCS 2.0. Why do people keep saying this? OF COURSE it will be released at the same time.. The entire POINT of EDGE and DCSW 2 is to provide better visuals and performance.. You can only take full advantage of this with a map that is specifically built for it.. Hence NTTR... Do you seriously think they are going to spend literally YEARS bringing this to light and release it with the old caucus map that they have already said does not take advantage of what EDGE brings? Why on EARTH would anyone do that? :doh: "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
Revelation Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Why do people keep saying this? OF COURSE it will be released at the same time.. The entire POINT of EDGE and DCSW 2 is to provide better visuals and performance.. You can only take full advantage of this with a map that is specifically built for it.. Hence NTTR... Do you seriously think they are going to spend literally YEARS bringing this to light and release it with the old caucus map that they have already said does not take advantage of what EDGE brings? Why on EARTH would anyone do that? :doh: I think what they are trying to convey is that NTTR may not be released at the same time, but shortly after DCSW2. This does a couple of things... a) Gets the base code out to support NTTR. b) Sets up the Beta branch and release branch in DCSW2 Chances are good that we will see both released at the same time. I just think some are trying to set expectations a bit lower in case they are released separately. Edited June 21, 2015 by Revelation Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
dartuil Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 Someone recorded the stream? please. i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals
ED Team NineLine Posted June 21, 2015 ED Team Posted June 21, 2015 Someone recorded the stream? please. Recording wasnt approved for anyone. There will be more streams. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Raven_Morpheus Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) Quite disappointed to not see any sort of a release on the horizon in the latest newsletter. Forgive me for saying this, and I'm sure I'll get a lot of hassle for it, but I'm starting to wonder if whilst people continue buying DCS1 content there's any incentive for ED to release DCS2? Just getting a bit tired of the "it's not ready yet" routine. Again apologies for saying so. The part I'm disappointed about is that this has left me not knowing if I should sell my Oculus Rift. I have kept hold of it just to see what it was like in DCS 2, but now having no estimated release date has left me not knowing what to do with it. They haven't even said if we are looking at this year and with the VR headsets out early next year you can see my dilemma. I just wish they hadn't waited until June to say that they don't have a release date after the Feb news letter. Can I see your dilemma? Not really, I don't have an Oculus Rift. Nor do I, or am I likely to, have the sort of funds required for an Oculus Rift or any other upcoming VR headset - $350 or more!! Have to be blunt, and I apologise for being so, but your dilemma seems like what is commonly termed a "first world problem"... I would however think the answer is quite obvious, if you only want a VR headset for DCS 2, and DCS 2 is not even out, and you are not going to use the Oculus Rift for anything else then sell it. Edited June 21, 2015 by Raven_Morpheus 1
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