HORTON Ho229 v4+ by Polychop Simulations

[NineLine]

I love that someone is doing something with aircraft like this, I hope you do your research and get a ton of testing documents and such, I know they are out there, I really want a high quality FM and really get an idea what it was like to fly this aircraft... good luck guys!

[NineLine]

Nice!

But i'm not sure if this aircraft has a place in online WW2 pvp matches.

 

I hate to sound like a broken record... but its all about mission design :)

[shagrat]

What Sith said. Amazing plane to just fly and try.

In the end DCS is a Flight simulation foremost focused on military planes... why not go beyond the usual F-16A vs. Mig-29?

Not that these wouldn't get their share of love either.

[otto]

I don't think it's that unstable.

 

Min 13:37 a flying wing model built by Horton brothers lands at low speed:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDkMIlK67Bw

 

Also one of the prototypes crashed because of engine failure and it is impossible to fly the plane with just one engine.

 

I think it's going to be harder to use than the 262 because of the lack of rudder.

You need the rudder for small adjustments when shooting it's harder to fly, shoot without one imho .

[Rogue Trooper]

This will be a real nice module!

good luck.

[otto]

did this aircraft use the same engine as 262 i take it?

 

From what i read

It was designed for the bmw 003 but it used the jumo 004 (The me 262 engine) untill the 00

3 was ready.

 

Also i found out it used drag rudders to yaw.

[unknown_pilot]

Hello, any news about this beauty lady? Its absolute dream to fly it with AFM... Your external model is absolutely sexy, wanna make my like yours :)

[Blaze]

Also i found out it used drag rudders to yaw.

 

Yep. The B-2 uses a similar method, in that to yaw the aileron on that side splits (like the A-10).

[Joao611]

What engines does the V4+ use? I only know the V3 used the 004B engines, the same ones of the Me262A1a.

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

Exquisite, can't wait to see further progress from this and future projects.

[BravoM5]

Oh you guys are working on a 229 as well? That's awesome! I'll definitely be buying this one.

[rajdary]

Really waiting for this one!

ont want to be picky, but i just realised that you wrote HORToN instead of HORTEN, i the Ho229 thread:smartass:

[uboats]

any update?

[borchi_2b]

Hi Horten fans,

At the moment we focus directly on the SA342 Gazelle to get the first module done and finshed for release so we had to decide to put some projects on a hold for some time. As soon some of the last touches of the Gazelle are done and all the 3D parts are finally done you may see some updates on this bird, but for now we have put this beauty on hold.

 

The hardest about this project is actually to find relevant data that is reliable. But there is no challange big enough to stay unmastered.

 

For now I can only ask you guys for some patience and give us the freedom to concentrate on the first vital project of us.

 

Little promise of mine, there are interesting things planned :joystick: so stay tuned.

 

Always a happy landing to all of you.

[uboats]

thanks for the update

i have enough patience

[rajdary]

Thanks for the update, waiting is one of our learned skills as DCSW Simmers!

[QuiGon]

I appreciate the update. It's always nice to know what's going on :thumbup:

 

Keep up the good work!

[Stickshaker]

How did I miss this? A truly fantastic choice for a plane to develop! This is a sure buy for me. I hope you will do other exotic or ‘what if’ planes like the Ta-183, Bachem Natter or Me-262 HG III. Even if not all data for a totally realistic representation may exist, we can get some idea of what it was to fly the Horten. And the production version may have differed from the prototype on which available data are based anyway.

[WinterH]

One of the what if planes I would to see is HA-300. However, it might be just a tad too hard to find relevant information, and I guess radar and weapons would have needed to be guessed.

 

It just looks like a "better MiG-21", or even a hybrid of MiG and Mirage :).

 

Anyway, I hope eventually this Horten will see the light of day, awesome looking and interesting aircraft from waning days of WW II.

[NineLine]

I would guess you guys have stumbled across this:

 

http://www.paperlessarchives.com/FreeTitles/HortenHo229.pdf

 

http://www.paperlessarchives.com/hortenho229.html

Edited July 24, 2015 by NineLine

[golani79]

A Horton surely would be an interesting aircraft :)

[borchi_2b]

@SiThSpAwN:

Thanks alot for the links. I will take a closer look at them when I am home. Any information on this beauty is welcomed and as far I saw it, there are some charts included, which will be interesting for our engireer/ programmer.

As soon we have reviewed the info we will decide what we will do with any information given to us.

 

As mentioned before, we welcome any help on research for documents on that particular bird or any other plane we have in production.

 

cheers

borchi_2b

[felixx75]

I don't like prototypes. There were 3 prototypes (#1 even without engines). How do you prove the right flight model? Only 4 flights and the last flight ended with a crash and a dead pilot... I think, there are so many other great planes, real planes to simulate correctly.

 

just my opinion

[Pman]

I for one can't wait :)

 

Looking good guys

 

Pman

[shagrat]

Any addition to the hangar is appreciated... I think this is a fantastic choice for a Sim, as there are no surviving planes of its kind.

 

As for the part of "how do you correctly model XYZ", well, I guess like building modern airplanes on CAD and Simulation... Or does anyone think Airbus builds prototype after prototype and use try and error to see if it flies?

 

If you can accurately model the physical appearance, know some reliable data about engines and stuff, it should be possible to model flight behavior on wind tunnel simulation and other standard mathematic development technologies to get a pretty accurate behavior.

Remember, this is not FSX stock, where a 747 is just a bunch of parameters for roll rate, pitch limit, stall speed etc.

 

By the way I agree, it is a good idea to focus on getting the Gazelle out the door first. One thing is you give an impression on what you are capable of, and build a customer base, second you generate some cash flow, to finance future project, which is a good idea to keep a healthy budget plan! :D

 

DCS modules are no Minesweeper clones and take considerable effort and dedication, so patience on our side is the least we can give back in return.