Oculus Rift with DCS World Discussion

[Lt.Stich]

Just my 5 cents. I believe VR is the future but with current state it is not a massive consumer product. I have bought it week ago and was trying finally understand is it worth for DCS.

 

So there are lot of positive comments regarding immersion of to be in the real cockpit, well it is true, cockpit is awesome, but what are outside of the cockpit for 100 meters just blur...

 

For me it was absolutely unplayable, yes you can fly but fight and find the target without markers - noway. The second biggest issue is sickness, it is really there and it is dealbreaker for me specifically. I was able to manage 45FPS with high setting and 2.5 pixel density, but still all, except cockpit, are just awful. I have top end PC and even with Asynchronous Space Warp and low settings with 1.5 PD i had maximum 45FPS (I7 6700k, 1080 GTX, DDR4 16gb) when played some missions in DCS 1.5.

 

I have returned my Oculus after 1 week. Don´t let me wrong, i believe it is the future, but me personally will wait next generation of VR. My advise try it first before buying, can be that it doesn´t work for you as in my case.

 

That is my personal opinion.

Edited October 20, 2016 by Lt.Stich

[Astronut]

I'm thinking that the motion sickness made it harder for you enjoy the experience Lt.Stich . It can take awhile to get used to it.

 

I have had my Rift since April and to be honest, I could never go back to a flat screen now for any simulator. There are some titles that still make me feel a little 'off', Subnautica being the main one. Fortunately, DCS World does not have that effect on me.

 

I have tweaked my labels settings to make them present, but very non-intrusive (basically Grey dots). That helps a lot to alleviate spotting targets at a distance.

 

VR, even in it's present state, brings a lot to the table. Helicopters are a vastly improved experience. Air Refueling is far more intuitive because you can actually judge where the basket/drogue is in relation to your aircraft. I flew the Museum Relic campaign from start to finish purely with the Rift and had no problems with the combat, both air to air and air to ground, so it is perfectly possible to operate effectively with the Rift.

 

Of course, when Gen 2 comes out I'll be right there in line to buy one (and probably a new PC to run it as well ;) ).

 

I'm sorry that you sent it back after a week. I am sure that once you got over the queeziness you would have found things a lot better.

[hannibal]

it took me a few weeks to get through motion sickness. at first helos were unplayable.. but 2 months later after flying helos, i love being in the UH-1H in VR.

 

i dont regret my decision at all. cant go monitors again. VR 4 lyfe

[hannibal]

people new to VR, it is necessary to start slow to get your VR legs. i started with 15 mins a day for a week or 2. then moved on to an hour.

 

now i can do DCS for 3-4 hours before i get fatigued

[Rocky49]

totally agree that if you are prone to motion sickness you must take the time to gradually increase exposure, however, one must also remember that some people never get over their quezzyness

[metzger]

With Assynchronous time warp you can't have more than 45fps in DCS it is locked to 45, if you have 45 with ATW it is very smooth. No fps issues for me with gtx970 2x AA and shadows off and PD 1.7. Spoting ground target from 8-9km with ka-50 is not difficult if you know where to point shkval(no labels).

No way to go back to flat screen anymore. I tried to test again on the 32 monitor and it was terrible everything is so small...and flat..

 

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[RabidRider]

With Assynchronous time warp you can't have more than 45fps in DCS it is locked to 45, if you have 45 with ATW it is very smooth. No fps issues for me with gtx970 2x AA and shadows off and PD 1.7. Spoting ground target from 8-9km with ka-50 is not difficult if you know where to point shkval(no labels).

No way to go back to flat screen anymore. I tried to test again on the 32 monitor and it was terrible everything is so small...and flat..

 

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Impossible to set shadows on and get a decent frame rate?

[Frusheen]

Impossible to set shadows on and get a decent frame rate?

 

I can manage shadows on but only barely. I still get the odd drop below 45 fps over Vegas with shadows.

[hansangb]

I have flat shadows on and I'm not seeing any issues. Even flying through Vegas NOE in one of the instant missions.

[Frusheen]

I have flat shadows on and I'm not seeing any issues. Even flying through Vegas NOE in one of the instant missions.

 

Hansangb is your CPU overclocked?

[hansangb]

No, stock. I'm using mostly HIGH settings, and reduced a few settings. I'll try to post a pic later of my config setup.

[metzger]

Absoltely possible to have shadows but they kill too many fps. I prefer shadows off and PD higher.

 

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[hansangb]

But that's the point metzger. With flat shadows, and preset setting of HIGH, and ASW, it works like a charm! Will post my settings this evening

 

EDIT: Added my setup

Edited October 23, 2016 by hansangb

[Tic-Tac]

Is it possible to watch a flight track with the rift, after the flight? If so can you look around, independent of your view during the flight itself. Rift is on it's way...just wondering stuff to fill the time ;)

[alieneye]

Yes, press Ctrl+F1 while replaying track

[KCballin]

I'm having trouble understanding how GTX 970 users can maintain 45 fps w/1.7x pixel density when I can barely stay above 45 fps w/a GTX 1070 at 1.5x pixel density. When flying on the VA server with other aircraft or in dense areas, I am getting 22 fps with ASW enabled and 30 fps with ASW disabled.

 

I understand that CPU and RAM can affect DCS world performance, but I have all of my settings on some of the lowest possible selections (no shadows, no MSAA, etc), and still am having issues. What gives? Is there anything I can investigate? Or is RAM and CPU holding me back from the 45+ range?

 

Specs: i5 4590 @ 3.3 ghz, 8gb 1600mhz DDR3 RAM, 240 gb SSD, GTX 1070 overclocked.

 

PC benchmark says all components perform at/above expectations.

Edited October 25, 2016 by KCballin

[whitav8]

@KCBallin,

I would guess that unless you overclock your CPU (you said "Specs: i5 4590 @ 3.3 ghz"), you will have slower FPS. Most of us are running at 4.2 or higher and that might provide another 10+ fps.

 

Also, make sure you are running with "prefer maximum performance" on your Nvidia settings for Power Management mode

Edited October 25, 2016 by whitav8

[morek99]

But that's the point metzger. With flat shadows, and preset setting of HIGH, and ASW, it works like a charm! Will post my settings this evening

 

EDIT: Added my setup

 

 

Good morning,

any information on the pixel density setting? i run the 6700k at 4500mhz with a 1070GTX and cannot maintain 45 fps , espacially in a combat situation. my system maintains 45 fps from takeoff to a certain poont where it suddenly drops to 22 FPS. appears quite strange to me, any thoughts?

[Johnny Dioxin]

Wowski!

 

Normally I always fly A/G missions, but yesterday I went online with Twon1987 (the poor guy is still using a POV hat to look around!) flying the F-15C. First a simple self-made practise mission, finding and then shooting down transports and Bears, then onto the BASIS server for some proper dogfighting stuff - though in the end it was just a Tu-160 we came across.

 

However, although the A/G VR experience is great - this was something else. I still struggled, due to lack of knowledge of A/A systems and not having them assigned to HOTAS, but on all occasions except one I spotted the enemy aircraft visually and it was just so immersive and great fun.

 

If you are having doubt about getting a Rift (or Vive, I suppose) - VR is a massive game changer and the fun just never stops :)

[hansangb]

Good morning,

any information on the pixel density setting? i run the 6700k at 4500mhz with a 1070GTX and cannot maintain 45 fps , espacially in a combat situation. my system maintains 45 fps from takeoff to a certain poont where it suddenly drops to 22 FPS. appears quite strange to me, any thoughts?

 

Well, combat situation with AI may be a different story. I chose the Vegas tour instant mission because I can take (almost) exactly the same route to see what the difference was. I think I left the pixel density at 1.5 (I can double check this weekend).

 

Also, my extra VRAM and memory BW could be coming into factor here. Can you maintain 45FPS in the Vegas mission with A10?

[morek99]

Ah well, the pixel density explains it to me rather than the VRAM Bandwith or System RAM . I run it always in 2.0 pd. To fly around in Vegas an maintain 45fps using ASW is no factor at all. I recently took your settings, overclocked my 1070 to 1925MHz Boost and can now maintain 45fps during the first two missions of Piercing Fury. Just some short term drops to 22fps (5sec) in moments of R/T displayed on screen and only in certain directions of view. Quiet odd nevertheless.

But I´m happy so far, Rift finally looks good and is absolutly playable, even after the last weeks of crisp 4k flying on the flat screen ;) .

The immersion is unbeatable and the hog now finally feels like a real plane :)

Thanks so far und best regards

 

 

Well, combat situation with AI may be a different story. I chose the Vegas tour instant mission because I can take (almost) exactly the same route to see what the difference was. I think I left the pixel density at 1.5 (I can double check this weekend).

 

Also, my extra VRAM and memory BW could be coming into factor here. Can you maintain 45FPS in the Vegas mission with A10?

Edited October 26, 2016 by morek99

[Neldrion]

I think Pixel Density 1.5 is ok. Above 1.5 performance drops significantly and the increase in perceived resolution is not as high. When Asyncronous Space Warp is enabled you can put it higher. But when you have an intense scenario with many aircraft, units and stuff I would sacrifice some of the pixel density for some higher fps.

[Ev1l5anta]

I really hope to get some help here. I got a i5-4690K at 4.4Ghz, 16Gb Mem DDR3-1866, EVGA 1080 OC. My FPS is locked at 44.9 no matter what I do. If I change VR SS to 2.0 or 0.5, If I leave the settings in VR or low, the maximum in game I get is 44.9 FPS. On the menu when starts I get 180+ but as soon as the game starts its capped at 44.9. I used both the video card to display FPS as well as Oculus Debug tool.

 

This is driving me crazy... I upgraded from 970 and an i5-4460 just because of this game. Any help would be much appreciated.

[=DECOY=]

I really hope to get some help here. I got a i5-4690K at 4.4Ghz, 16Gb Mem DDR3-1866, EVGA 1080 OC. My FPS is locked at 44.9 no matter what I do. If I change VR SS to 2.0 or 0.5, If I leave the settings in VR or low, the maximum in game I get is 44.9 FPS. On the menu when starts I get 180+ but as soon as the game starts its capped at 44.9. I used both the video card to display FPS as well as Oculus Debug tool.

 

This is driving me crazy... I upgraded from 970 and an i5-4460 just because of this game. Any help would be much appreciated.

hi are are you using ASW and is your VSync off

[Frusheen]

I really hope to get some help here. I got a i5-4690K at 4.4Ghz, 16Gb Mem DDR3-1866, EVGA 1080 OC. My FPS is locked at 44.9 no matter what I do. If I change VR SS to 2.0 or 0.5, If I leave the settings in VR or low, the maximum in game I get is 44.9 FPS. On the menu when starts I get 180+ but as soon as the game starts its capped at 44.9. I used both the video card to display FPS as well as Oculus Debug tool.

 

This is driving me crazy... I upgraded from 970 and an i5-4460 just because of this game. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

Use rightctrl pause/break to see the in rift fps. If you have ASW enabled press ctrl numpad1 to disable it (it locks frames to 45 when on).