What attack chopper?

[agentdarnell]

I am wondering what attach chopper everyone would like to fly. Can only put 10 in The poll so if I forget something will have to great another poll.

 

Part 2

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=168128

Edited June 7, 2016 by agentdarnell

[NineLine]

 

 

Almost got him...

 

Edited June 7, 2016 by NineLine

[Vitormouraa]

I'll say what everybody says

 

 

not exactly a phrase but...

Edited June 7, 2016 by Vitormouraa

[Bearfoot]

I voted AH-64, because, well, AH-64.

 

But I think AH-1 is more realistically do-able.

 

Honestly, I would take either/both three times in a heartbeat.

[hughlb]

According to the latest updates on the The Battle Simulator, it seems like the AH-64 is already in development. It may never come to DCS, but I'd be choosing the AH-64 from the list, as it seems a more realistic option than the others, at this point in time.

 

http://www.thebattlesim.com/new/

[Bearfoot]

According to the latest updates on the The Battle Simulator, it seems like the AH-64 is already in development. It may never come to DCS, but I'd be choosing the AH-64 from the list, as it seems a more realistic option than the others, at this point in time.

 

http://www.thebattlesim.com/new/

 

I could be wrong, but IIRC, (1) ED said that they would never do or otherwise were told that they could never release the AH-64 for public use; (2) either ED or third-party indicated that they had an AH-1 project for public release in the works.

 

So, it is the AH-1 that is far more likely that the AH-64.

 

Someone please correct me if I am wrong!

[shagrat]

Apart from the military may having trouble with a 100% realistic AH-64D Longbow, I'm always intrigued by the number of physical controls you would need to manage this beast.

 

To give you an idea what I'm talking about, have a look here:

http://www.bugeyetech.com/#!ah-64/c1kgb

 

and if just the dual-grip collective plus cyclic and TEDAC isn't more than triple the number of 4-way hats the Warthog can handle, plus numerous other buttons, that is just the HOTAS/Gunner's sights and weapons control!

 

In addition, we would need to handle the Pilot's MFDs with 30(!) Buttons and three rotaries each...

http://www.zedasoft.com/products/ah64.jsp

 

So if we leave the MFDs to the one "mousefinger" and switches in the cockpit, that mean a LOT of HOTAS controls to be mapped!

 

Then there is the issue of Pilot/Gunner, that would require a very sophisticated AI to either man the pilot or gunner seat, unless we do multiplayer only... :helpsmilie:

[shagrat]

 

 

Almost got him...

 

 

Yeah, baby!!! Bring it on... :thumbup:

[QuiGon]

I'll say what everybody says

 

*pics*

 

not exactly a phrase but...

 

These are some really nice pictures, thanks! :thumbup:

[Vitormouraa]

I think the main problem isn't to fly it, but to make it for DCS. Rest.. well, rest is rest no matter what :D just kidding, but yeah, probably it would be really difficult to fly without a player as a Gunner/Pilot, but as I said, I don't think it is a problem. I won't justify a lack of something just because it would be difficult. Ka-50 is already overtasking sometimes, imagine an attack helicopter that was made to be flown by two pilots? Sorry if I misunderstood you.

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[shagrat]

I think the main problem isn't to fly it, but to make it for DCS. Rest.. well, rest is rest no matter what :D just kidding, but yeah, probably it would be really difficult to fly without a player as a Gunner/Pilot, but as I said, I don't think it is a problem. I won't justify a lack of something just because it would be difficult. Ka-50 is already overtasking sometimes, imagine a attack helicopter that was made to be flown by two pilots? Sorry if I misunderstood you.

 

Yep, that is one thing (overtasking), but I wonder how we would cope with a set of four to five modifiers for a Warthog HOTAS, to emulate the AH-64 HOTAS controls?

We can't go and try clicking buttons on the cyclic and collective mid flight, obviously.

 

Pretty interesting challenge. :joystick:

[Vitormouraa]

Yep, that is one thing (overtasking), but I wonder how we would cope with a set of four to five modifiers for a Warthog HOTAS, to emulate the AH-64 HOTAS controls?

We can't go and try clicking buttons on the cyclic and collective mid flight, obviously.

 

Pretty interesting challenge. :joystick:

 

At least for me it wouldn't be a problem, I use keyboard along with the joytick since forever. ;)

[firmek]

+1 Vitormouraa - As much as I would love to have an possibility to fly AH64 or Tiger in DCS I struggle to understand how a single man can effectively operate a machine that was designed to have two people - pilot and weapon systems operator on board.

[shagrat]

At least for me it wouldn't be a problem, I use keyboard along with the joytick since forever. ;)

Yeah, but Keyboard has only about 80-90 Keys available for unmodified assignment... interesting challenge.

[agentdarnell]

+1 Vitormouraa - As much as I would love to have an possibility to fly AH64 or Tiger in DCS I struggle to understand how a single man can effectively operate a machine that was designed to have two people - pilot and weapon systems operator on board.

Guess that is where jester ai comes into play.

[MAD-MM]

Apparently from the next Heli wish thread, for me can only the 1 Chopper the next Modul the iconic Mi-24 crocodile.

 

[ShuRugal]

[wolle]

According to the latest updates on the The Battle Simulator, it seems like the AH-64 is already in development. It may never come to DCS, but I'd be choosing the AH-64 from the list, as it seems a more realistic option than the others, at this point in time.

 

http://www.thebattlesim.com/new/

 

What is this, the battle simulator? Never heard of it. Took a look at their webpage, looks a lot like DCS World. What's the difference between the battle simulator and DCS world? Very curious...

[agentdarnell]

What is this, the battle simulator? Never heard of it. Took a look at their webpage, looks a lot like DCS World. What's the difference between the battle simulator and DCS world? Very curious...

Battle simulator is for military and government contract. Dcs is public.

[Ryback]

 

 

Almost got him...

 

I see quite a bit of sarcasm there:megalol: or shouldn't i?

[Darkbrotherhood7]

Yeah, the AH-64D would be very nice, and it's probably my favorite, but the Tiger and Mangusta stiil an option.

 

Airbus Tiger:

 

 

 

Mangusta:

Don't pay attention to the guys in the landing gear hahhah

 

Edited June 7, 2016 by Darkbrotherhood7

[Fri13]

Battle simulator is for military and government contract. Dcs is public.

 

Was about to say same. As after all ED has military contracts as well to provide the military simulators. And as years back ED said, they can't release the AH-64 for public, but they can do it for the Army and other AH-64 operators.

 

And then just saying same thing as above "shagrat" said, we just don't have the capacity to operate those aircrafts.

 

While AH-64 is my favorite for modern attack helicopter, I would not want it to be released. I would take Mi-24 (voted) as it is far more simpler to operate, is a true gunship and can do multitasks better than others and still be possible get the AI to operate gunner or pilot positions when going solo.

 

But then if I would want to get another modern attack helicopter, it would be Eurocopter Tiger as it is so rarely seen or talked about.

 

But then again, it was taken in service 1991? So it is barely just in the Cold War era for DCS.

And I really like that DCS is about cold war era (not about WW2, or modern ones) as there the real development happened and we got all kind variants out in every way.

[FoxHoundELite]

Just leave it here, 360° cockpit view of Tiger HAD and NH-90

http://www.aerotorshow.fr/ats/vvh/visite_360_tigre_had_II/COCKPIT%20TIGRE%20HAD.html

http://www.aerotorshow.fr/ats/vvh/Visite%20360%20Caiman/Visite%20caiman.html

[COMThing]

Just leave it here, 360° cockpit view of Tiger HAD and NH-90

http://www.aerotorshow.fr/ats/vvh/visite_360_tigre_had_II/COCKPIT%20TIGRE%20HAD.html

http://www.aerotorshow.fr/ats/vvh/Visite%20360%20Caiman/Visite%20caiman.html

 

That reminds me a lot of the old Enemy Engaged series, flying the Comanche around in that awesome dynamic campaign is probably the most time I've spent on a single-player game.