Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 9

gregzagk · November 17, 2016

Web based map seems to be stuck the whole day, maybe something went wrong when updating the mission.

Yes, reverted until we fix it. Thanks

May I suggest to move the classic blue camouflage of the mirage 2000 on the blue side? Makes more sense since this is the camo for France AF (= blue side).

Yes, French skin will be on Blue & UAE on Red.

Greg

Alpenwolf · November 17, 2016

Round 10 (still being tested as of now):

Not sure this was mentioned somewhere before, but the AI refueling cargo plane to both Anapa and above all Maykop crashes or gets destroyed by nothing all the time! Hope the scripting part for this will be fixed.

Cheers

kobeshow · November 17, 2016

Hey Alpen, yes it ahs been fixed (;

We didn't actually test many changes during the previous days. Mostly how the new version of DCS performs in Multiplayer.

Today we uploaded new mission files which shall:
- bring back CSAR missions
- remove AI airbases refuelling (choppers will handle this)
- Mi-8 added to the blue side/ UH-1H added to the red side
- changed some aircraft skins (some more to change in the next hours)

Greg

iLOVEwindmills · November 17, 2016

This would no help a lot. The most frustrating point and motivation killer is the gap between MiG-21bis/Tiger when opposed against FC 4'th gen airplanes and comparing to 2’nd/early 3’d gen jets, relatively modern AA systems. Chances of surviving and being useful for the team in old airframe are extremely reduced. For sure there are great pilots that can manage well Fished and Tiger under such circumstances. I'm probably not the one. While I love the MiG-21, every time when I spawn in it in BF the first impression that I get is I'm screwed. Being forced to apply the tactics like hiding all the time in canyons also doesn’t help as it ruins the overall immersion of flying the module as it was designed to (high altitude interceptor). It is hard to find an incentive for someone being asked to put himself willingly in disadvantage and fly it more kind off in an “arcadisch” style. For that reason prety much as recently I’m spending most of time flying older planes like MiG-21/15, Sabre/WWII I skip the servers with FC aircrafts – including BF (unfortunately).
The only way to have the incentive for older planes is just to match the scenarios and their capabilities. I just can't wait for an Korea, Vietnam setup. Maybe removing the FC 4’th gen would help but then it wouldn't be fair as it would ruin the fun for all that appreciate more modern setups.

Also agreeing with this.

Extra lives for these planes would be great.

kobeshow · November 18, 2016

So the server completely collapsed tonight, it was full and many people were joining, then ir restarted 3 times and then it was just gone ):

QuiGon · November 18, 2016

This would no help a lot. The most frustrating point and motivation killer is the gap between MiG-21bis/Tiger when opposed against FC 4'th gen airplanes and comparing to 2’nd/early 3’d gen jets, relatively modern AA systems. Chances of surviving and being useful for the team in old airframe are extremely reduced. For sure there are great pilots that can manage well Fished and Tiger under such circumstances. I'm probably not the one. While I love the MiG-21, every time when I spawn in it in BF the first impression that I get is I'm screwed. Being forced to apply the tactics like hiding all the time in canyons also doesn’t help as it ruins the overall immersion of flying the module as it was designed to (high altitude interceptor). It is hard to find an incentive for someone being asked to put himself willingly in disadvantage and fly it more kind off in an “arcadisch” style. For that reason prety much as recently I’m spending most of time flying older planes like MiG-21/15, Sabre/WWII I skip the servers with FC aircrafts – including BF (unfortunately).
The only way to have the incentive for older planes is just to match the scenarios and their capabilities. I just can't wait for an Korea, Vietnam setup. Maybe removing the FC 4’th gen would help but then it wouldn't be fair as it would ruin the fun for all that appreciate more modern setups.

I'm eagerly waiting for BlueFlag Vietnam (besides BlueFlag Korea) :)

Jman · November 19, 2016

Not sure if anyone else has noticed all airbases randomly scrambling today.

We were just attacking EJ08 with no friendlies north of the farp and all airbases started scrambling including some bluefors (gudauta, senaki, etc.)

Jman · November 19, 2016

Oceandar · November 20, 2016

I think there's some kind of bug or something. Yesterday I had bumpy take off and the server identified me landed while in fact I was airborne. I crashed in that flight and my life still counted as full 4 with 0 lost

Edited November 20, 2016 by Oceandar

Nirvi · November 20, 2016

Would it be possible to randomize the mission times? I have limited playing time, and during my 2hrs of playing time on the weekend it's always night.:(

=KAG=RubiN · November 20, 2016

master classes from Plaiskool: red eyes side

https://youtu.be/voAyxVDLpfs

... and other methods blue pilots

https://youtu.be/zLP1chPAOHE

What do you think, why the pilots leave the server?

Jugdriver · November 20, 2016

What do you think, why the pilots leave the server?

FYI a disco does not save a life in BF, so that would not be the reason. That being said it would be nice if we all let our planes hit the ground after a shoot down just for the immersion factor.

Someone did the same to me around Sochi yesterday, it happens, no big deal.

JD

AKA_MattE

DieHard · November 20, 2016

Relatively new playing this server.

I notice some guys are being AWAC operatives giving situational, real-time info to the same side pilots. How is this achieved playing this role?

firmek · November 20, 2016

Probably it's not a big news but the server is lagging a lot and constantly crashes. Today evening it was hard to play a single 3h session without a crash or disconnect. Not complaining - just reporting as it is a testing session ;)

Pronin · November 20, 2016

So I just killed a FARP in the KA-50 and was sitting there watching it, waiting for an Mi-8 shows up.

After about 5 minutes it INSTANTLY became repaired 100%, with no incremental messages.

Went from destroyed to 100% without warning. Everything came back at once and I was killed before I could even rifle.

Is this intentional? Isn't it supposed to repair in 30 minutes? plus give messages saying the % its repaired?

Oceandar · November 20, 2016

Relatively new playing this server.

I notice some guys are being AWAC operatives giving situational, real-time info to the same side pilots. How is this achieved playing this role?

It happened to me and BitMaster. I believe it had something to do with cursor being broken so we were not aware that we actually on global. :D

Edit : wrong answer, misunderstood the post. See later post by Jugdriver.

Edited November 21, 2016 by Oceandar

Oceandar · November 20, 2016

master classes from Plaiskool: red eyes side

https://youtu.be/voAyxVDLpfs

... and other methods blue pilots

https://youtu.be/zLP1chPAOHE

What do you think, why the pilots leave the server?

The lag was pretty terrible. I missed few kills because of that. It happens so I consider it bad luck :D

Regarding the disco , I think it simply was a rage quit lol

Jugdriver · November 21, 2016

Relatively new playing this server.

I notice some guys are being AWAC operatives giving situational, real-time info to the same side pilots. How is this achieved playing this role?

They have combined arms and act as GCI (forward observers).

JD

AKA_MattE

microvax · November 21, 2016

So I just killed a FARP in the KA-50 and was sitting there watching it, waiting for an Mi-8 shows up.

After about 5 minutes it INSTANTLY became repaired 100%, with no incremental messages.

Went from destroyed to 100% without warning. Everything came back at once and I was killed before I could even rifle.

Is this intentional? Isn't it supposed to repair in 30 minutes? plus give messages saying the % its repaired?

FARPs have allways been 20 minutes and no incremental repairs. :)

firmek · November 21, 2016

master classes from Plaiskool: red eyes side

https://youtu.be/voAyxVDLpfs

... and other methods blue pilots

https://youtu.be/zLP1chPAOHE

What do you think, why the pilots leave the server?

The lagging is a problem but it is affecting both sides at the same level. It's not an excuse, it shouldn't be that way but

... and other methods blue pilots

or the titles of the videos: "hard target for the red", "blue pilot saved his life" is really unfair as it clearly imposes that only RED are affected and BLUE are exploiting it for their purpose. Again, both teams suffer from the lags. PS - I'm playing on red this testing round so no need for conspiracy theory.

firmek · November 21, 2016

So I just killed a FARP in the KA-50 and was sitting there watching it, waiting for an Mi-8 shows up.

After about 5 minutes it INSTANTLY became repaired 100%, with no incremental messages.

Went from destroyed to 100% without warning. Everything came back at once and I was killed before I could even rifle.

Is this intentional? Isn't it supposed to repair in 30 minutes? plus give messages saying the % its repaired?

FARPs have allways been 20 minutes and no incremental repairs. :)

For that reason keep distance all the time and don't fly over the neutralized FARP. Just in case to avoid ending up as target on a silver plate when the AA defenses respawn :)

BitMaster · November 21, 2016

My findings of yesterday's session:

Many, far too many disconnects. 3 x in a row I was disconnected right in front of my target :( baah

F10 map view is not consistent. Some other GCI ( same side ) may see more or less than you do. Changing to a new slot ( GCI ) fixes it to some extend.

The F10 map has erased my markings multiple times ( may be related to above ).

Apart from those mishaps, it was GREAT :)

BitMaster · November 21, 2016

So I just killed a FARP in the KA-50 and was sitting there watching it, waiting for an Mi-8 shows up.

After about 5 minutes it INSTANTLY became repaired 100%, with no incremental messages.

Went from destroyed to 100% without warning. Everything came back at once and I was killed before I could even rifle.

Is this intentional? Isn't it supposed to repair in 30 minutes? plus give messages saying the % its repaired?

Make up a team of a Ka-50 or two and 1 or 2 Mi-8 and let them trail behind you, like 5-10km.

Once the Ka's have cleared the FARP you call in the Mi-8 immediately. usually Mi-8 pilots take it easy and dont mind to land and wait 15-30min for the Ka's to finish their job.

Having CAP above is welcome :)

kreisch · November 21, 2016

I just damaged my engine during wrong startup of the gazelle on plain field outside of an enemy farp and went to briefing and respawned - I still have all my chopper lives, maybe a script error ?

Callsign "Austin". About 3 minutes ago.

Beeroshima · November 21, 2016

I just damaged my engine during wrong startup of the gazelle on plain field outside of an enemy farp and went to briefing and respawned - I still have all my chopper lives, maybe a script error ?

Callsign "Austin". About 3 minutes ago.

You lose a life on takeoff and get refunded one on landing is the way the system works.

Sent while i should be working instead.

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