ebabil Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) For now, you must create flight plans each time you spawn. --gos thanks for the info. for now, i will stick with pressing f10 then :) and another question: why its name isn't garmin gns-430 ? Edited September 8, 2017 by ebabil FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 thanks for the info. for now, i will stick with pressing f10 then :) and another question: why its name isn't garmin gns-430 ? Probably license reasons. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 why its name isn't garmin gns-430 ? Was going to ask that too, but QuiGon is probably right... Though to me at least it's kind of odd to think that would be the case, I'm probably being niave but I find it difficult to believe it would be hard to get licensing for a GPS... then again what do I know. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm not saying that licensing is not correct but it seems odd to copy the interface exactly but the fact that you leave out the "G" in the name suddenly clears you of license violations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm not saying that licensing is not correct but it seems odd to copy the interface exactly but the fact that you leave out the "G" in the name suddenly clears you of license violations... Could be that Garmin wanted more money for the license if Belsimtek would put Garmin on it aswell apart from the NS430 module! Who knows... :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero.ger Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 also, imagin a planeCrash and the Pilot says he 'learned' using the GNS 430 from DCS... maybe Garmin wants to avoid potential lawsuits 'controlling' the Ka50 feels like a discussion with the Autopilot and trim system about the flight direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 also, imagin a planeCrash and the Pilot says he 'learned' using the GNS 430 from DCS... maybe Garmin wants to avoid potential lawsuits If that can happen, that is utterly absurd. Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm not saying that licensing is not correct but it seems odd to copy the interface exactly but the fact that you leave out the "G" in the name suddenly clears you of license violations... I always wondered that to be honest. With Garmin, not fine, without the Garmin in the name, totally fine? SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 There could be several reasons. The most obvious is licensing issues; if you want to use Garmin's registered trademarks commercially, you need their permission. Which usually costs money. An other aspect could be possible publicity reasons. If Garmin should feel that a simulated version of their products give an unfair/inaccurate representation of the real world product, they might not be interested in allowing use of their names or proprietary IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 But whatever the reason may be, "fixing" it is easy: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 +1 for this! SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I am just getting this now. Good to see Gospadin and Imp on the case, look forward to learning all about this device and its uses from you two :thumbup: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redglyph Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 They are trying to apply the FSX/P3D/XPlane paradigm to DCS, that's a bit weird and I'm not sure they'll find the same type of customers here, but oh well, let's see. The Mi-8 is a great module after all. In a general note, and not necessarily speaking of this case, it's always left me nonplussed how much vendors were trying to make a profit of so many little things in these other sims, aircraft (OK), sceneries (very much OK too), aircraft add-ons like this GPS (err, why not), subscriptions to navigation charts (eh? for hobby simmers, really?), push-back tractors, ATCs, fuel estimation tools, ambiant sounds, good-looking clouds, weather engines, online courses on how to fly an add-on (I've seen it, I swear it exists!), and more :D They're surely creative. That being said, the day a good developer sells a nice C152 or a Schweizer 300, I'm buying it! :) System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drPhibes Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 That being said, the day a good developer sells a nice C152 or a Schweizer 300, I'm buying it! :) Hanging out of the door of a Schweizer 300 with my Sig P210 would beat the Huey any day! And maybe even the Mi-24P. (and no, this is not one of the wishlish thread derailments that seem to pop up everywhere these days). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 L-39 option gone....? because i cant select it from STABLE 1.5 or 2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 L-39 option gone....? because i cant select it from STABLE 1.5 or 2.1 I was told the Garmin in the L-39 was removed because it was an older version of the NS-430 module. SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Bought. This lil' critter will come in handy with the Hip, that's fer shure :thumbup: The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2017 ED Team Share Posted September 8, 2017 I was told the Garmin in the L-39 was removed because it was an older version of the NS-430 module. I believe the release for the L-39 was in error, least for now. We will see if there will be any info on if or when it will come back. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 huh intersting if BSt is adding additional features for $$, would be wondering if theyl go a similar route with other variations of thier aircraft to boost thier capabilties or such. though at the same time this is worrisome as this is essentially going down the mini DLC/ micro transaction route. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 additional features for $$ Would be more worrisome if they didn't charge for new products that must've taken lots of manhours to achieve. But I get ya. If you're skint, you're skint. Tough... The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I believe the release for the L-39 was in error, least for now. We will see if there will be any info on if or when it will come back. Well there goes my purchase for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2017 ED Team Share Posted September 8, 2017 huh intersting if BSt is adding additional features for $$, would be wondering if theyl go a similar route with other variations of thier aircraft to boost thier capabilties or such. though at the same time this is worrisome as this is essentially going down the mini DLC/ micro transaction route. I am ok if the DLC/Micro transaction is for something obviously so complex to model. Its not like they are re-texturing some characters and releasing DCS 2018. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Well there goes my purchase for the time being And i discovered it to late :( I mean its a nice feature for the MI8 and good to have ingame overall but im more of a wing pilot then a rotorhead and now that i see i cant select it for the L-39 i was like SIGH :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2017 ED Team Share Posted September 8, 2017 And i discovered it to late :( I mean its a nice feature for the MI8 and good to have ingame overall but im more of a wing pilot then a rotorhead and now that i see i cant select it for the L-39 i was like SIGH :cry: This is of course up to BST, but my hope is that it was just too incomplete or untested for the L-39 and it will return. They know you guys want more info on using it elsewhere, so I hope we hear something soon. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 And i discovered it to late :( I mean its a nice feature for the MI8 and good to have ingame overall but im more of a wing pilot then a rotorhead and now that i see i cant select it for the L-39 i was like SIGH :cry: For me the Mi-8 has a perfectly decent navigation suite as it is, I just wouldn't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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