Home Fries Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 My vote's for the A-6E. By the time the Tomcat is out, HB will have done a ray-tracing ground radar (Viggen) and an AI crewmember necessary for the operation of the aircraft. Besides, HB already has the aerodynamic properties of the Tomcat Wing, which is the same airfoil used on the A-6 (just fully extended forward). Of course, if they went with the Tornado ECR, I wound't cry in my beer. :beer: -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 My vote's for the A-6E. By the time the Tomcat is out, HB will have done a ray-tracing ground radar (Viggen) and an AI crewmember necessary for the operation of the aircraft. Besides, HB already has the aerodynamic properties of the Tomcat Wing, which is the same airfoil used on the A-6 (just fully extended forward). Good call, my bet is also on the A-6E. Heatblur is spending considerable resources and effort to build the Forrestal-class carriers, so it is only logical to assume that they will do additional aircraft to fit on this carrier. In addition of having developed all the key technologies necessary to build the Intruder, it is also the major aircraft that is really necessary to complete a period correct air wing with the Tomcat in DCS. Either the Grumman Air Wing of USS Ranger (2 Tomcat and 2 Intruder squadrons) or the regular air wing with Hornets (2 Tomcat, 2 Hornet, 1 Intruder squadrons). It would also be needed for the Corsair air wing (2 Tomcat, 2 Corsair, 1 Intruder), but obviously this would also need the Corsair in addition. Given this close ties to the Tomcat, I think the Intruder is a fairly safe bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty1117 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 If you guys have a ground radar, then the F15E sounds like a good option to me! We need a hi-fi version of that bird anyway and why not add the Strike part of Strike Eagle? ============================= i7 5820k | 32GB RAM | Nvidia 2070RTX | 1TB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 If it was to be a Tornado pls let it be an IDS or GR. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uri_ba Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 A-6 is my second all timie favorite :) (After the A-4). I would fly it for days! (well.. nights...) Creator of Hound ELINT script My pit building blog Few DIY projects on Github: DIY Cougar throttle Standalone USB controller | DIY FCC3 Standalone USB Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Intruder is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Good call, my bet is also on the A-6E. Heatblur is spending considerable resources and effort to build the Forrestal-class carriers, so it is only logical to assume that they will do additional aircraft to fit on this carrier. In addition of having developed all the key technologies necessary to build the Intruder, it is also the major aircraft that is really necessary to complete a period correct air wing with the Tomcat in DCS. Either the Grumman Air Wing of USS Ranger (2 Tomcat and 2 Intruder squadrons) or the regular air wing with Hornets (2 Tomcat, 2 Hornet, 1 Intruder squadrons). It would also be needed for the Corsair air wing (2 Tomcat, 2 Corsair, 1 Intruder), but obviously this would also need the Corsair in addition. Given this close ties to the Tomcat, I think the Intruder is a fairly safe bet. except Razbam had already expressed plans for the A6 Intruder, ( already speculated it will be a late model E) They even have a thread for the A6. not to mention they already have the experience of having developed one for FSX. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 except Razbam had already expressed plans for the A6 Intruder, ( already speculated it will be a late model E) They even have a thread for the A6. not to mention they already have the experience of having developed one for FSX. Plans are just plans. RAZBAM will be busy for years to come and do not have any exclusive rights to reserve any aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Plans are just plans. RAZBAM will be busy for years to come and do not have any exclusive rights to reserve any aircraft. Well let's not forget that is working on like almost 4 aircraft simultaneously ATM. There's the Harrier which is nearing completion, then there's the Mirage III, Mig-19, Super Tucano, and I believe also the A-7 Corsair (which I think we need ASAP) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcSummers Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 My vote's for the A-6E. By the time the Tomcat is out, HB will have done a ray-tracing ground radar (Viggen) and an AI crewmember necessary for the operation of the aircraft. Besides, HB already has the aerodynamic properties of the Tomcat Wing, which is the same airfoil used on the A-6 (just fully extended forward). Of course, if they went with the Tornado ECR, I wound't cry in my beer. :beer: Me too. I would love to see the A-6E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 My vote's for the A-6E. By the time the Tomcat is out, HB will have done a ray-tracing ground radar (Viggen) and an AI crewmember necessary for the operation of the aircraft. Besides, HB already has the aerodynamic properties of the Tomcat Wing, which is the same airfoil used on the A-6 (just fully extended forward). Of course, if they went with the Tornado ECR, I wound't cry in my beer. :beer: Good call, my bet is also on the A-6E. Heatblur is spending considerable resources and effort to build the Forrestal-class carriers, so it is only logical to assume that they will do additional aircraft to fit on this carrier. In addition of having developed all the key technologies necessary to build the Intruder, it is also the major aircraft that is really necessary to complete a period correct air wing with the Tomcat in DCS. Either the Grumman Air Wing of USS Ranger (2 Tomcat and 2 Intruder squadrons) or the regular air wing with Hornets (2 Tomcat, 2 Hornet, 1 Intruder squadrons). It would also be needed for the Corsair air wing (2 Tomcat, 2 Corsair, 1 Intruder), but obviously this would also need the Corsair in addition. Given this close ties to the Tomcat, I think the Intruder is a fairly safe bet. Thanks guys for bringing some actual fact based thinking back into this thread which turned into just another wishlist thread. It wont be a tornado. Why? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 If he said complex, what if it's a Mig-25! :huh: It would be perfect to counter the F-14 then!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 If he said complex, what if it's a Mig-25! :huh: It would be perfect to counter the F-14 then!! Cobra said they're working on a module that will make good use of their own technologies. I don't see how this would be the case with the MiG-25. Maybe their CFD technologies can be used for the development of the Apex missiles, but that's about it. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Cobra said they're working on a module that will make good use of their own technologies. I don't see how this would be the case with the MiG-25. Maybe their CFD technologies can be used for the development of the Apex missiles, but that's about it. I wonder what they mean by "our technologies" like what does Heatblur have that the others don't with which they make their planes? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I wonder what they mean by "our technologies" like what does Heatblur have that the others don't with which they make their planes? Heatblur have developed or are developing their own air-ground mapping radar and two-seater AI. It is therefore likely that future Heatblur aircraft will build on these technologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Exactly, which is why I think the A-6 or the Tornado would be good bets, with the Tornado having the addition of a swept wing, like the F-14. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Well, having the A-6E would be nice, of course, to match with the Tomcat, but from a pure module perspective, I'd much prefer they do a Tornado which would be a blast to fly at low level, unlike the slow bomb truck that the A-6 is. Edited September 19, 2017 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Fries Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well, having the A-6E would be nice, of course, to match with the Tomcat, but from a pure module perspective, I'd much prefer they do a Tornado which would be a blast to fly at low level, unlike the slow bomb truck that the A-6 is. The A-6 had a lot of drag and stability built into its airframe so it acted close to the same carrying bombs as it did clean. In fact, a bomb-laden A-6 was faster than a bomb-laden F-4. -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al531246 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 RAZBAM are already making an A-6 guys. Intel i5-8600k | EVGA RTX 3070 | Windows 10 | 32GB RAM @3600 MHz | 500 GB Samsung 850 SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodenameSection Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 My bet is on an F-111. Experience with the variable sweep-wing, TF30s and the Jester AI from the Tomcat could translate really well onto the Aardvark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyre Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I hope it is an F-111 but with everyone speculating that it would have to have Jester/swing wings/naval/ground radar this and that, wouldn't it be funny if it was a JA-37 Viggen? 1 Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterz Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 What about an Hawkeye :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) The A-6 had a lot of drag and stability built into its airframe so it acted close to the same carrying bombs as it did clean. In fact, a bomb-laden A-6 was faster than a bomb-laden F-4. I don't really see how that goes to contrary to what I've said? It might have carried more than its replacements, but it's still a bomb truck with a limited top speed due to its design. Edited September 19, 2017 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carss Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 I sincerely hope its a plane with a historic combat record, be it Nam or modern era, or even Korean era [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastyBaiter Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hopefully it's the MiG-23. The RAZBAM confusion resulted in a few posts by Wags and others that suggested someone else was already working on it. We know that someone isn't M3LLC, Aviodev or VEAO and obviously can't be RAZBAM. Heatblur seems the most likely candidate and was part of their original plans back when the MiG-21 was being made. It would make use of swing wing tech. The Tornado, though an interesting aircraft, is probably one I'd skip. If I pay $50-60 for a module, I want it to offer something new. The Tornado doesn't do that, too much overlap between it, the Viggen, Hornet and Harrier. That doesn't mean it isn't a cool aircraft, just a bit redundant. System specs: i5-10600k (4.9 GHz), RX 6950XT, 32GB DDR4 3200, NVMe SSD, Reverb G2, WinWing Super Libra/Taurus, CH Pro Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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