UIV Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) We VKB team take our pride in creating a fully dimensional world of modern virtual combat aviation control devices rather than a common "model range". TECS (Twin Engine Control System) is a completely new throttle control device made for today's and future jet warbirds. This unique state of art device is already out of "development" phase, and is currently entering "preparation for serial production". It would be wrong to say that TECS "worthily follows the line of VKB engineering tradition" that we have carefully maintained for 14 years. No, it takes this tradition farther and further. The design as usually is based on modular principle with data streaming between the blocks via VKB proprietary digital interface. Structurally, the system is built around the basic throttle control unit (the base). It can be expanded by additional panels connected to its front (with special braces) and to its rear (directly). These panels are also modular and allow users to configure the entire system according to their personal preferences. Inside the slider grips, the base, and the panels we put bus controllers that collect the data from control elements and pass it to the main processing unit that is hidden in the throttle control base. There are two ways the TECS can be connected to the computer: directly via USB, and via bus – by passing the data through the BlackBox. This way, it becomes possible to combine all control systems (the control grip + throttle control + pedals + extension panels) in one uncompromisingly rigid and integral piloting complex. The TECS's main control sliders' movement is physically made linear that surely adds to the realistic feeling and allows for the user's greater immersion. Frictions that load this movement can be adjusted individually. VKB engineers managed to design a unique stop mechanism that never before had been implemented in the gaming world. Now, like on a real plane, there are stops that demand additional effort on passing certain points of the movement range at Idle, Afterburner, and Afterburner max. Same as on a real plane, both slider grips are equipped with individual stops. If desired, these stops can be deactivated, and the sliders will travel without additional effort along its entire range. The grips' shape, similar to MCG, is as close as possible to the real fighters' controls. We only very slightly altered it to optimize its use in simulated environment. Structural parts of the TECS's mechanism are all metal. Full slider travel – 110 mm. Our own contactless magnetic sensors are used for extra precision. We see no point in overloading the surface with as many control knobs and switches as possible – it would likely make flying less handy and controlling the plane would become trickier. Instead, we focused on making the design and ergonomics of the TECS "VR ready". Every element can be easily found and identified by feel. A complete complex made of Gunfighter base, MCG grip, TECS, T-Rudder Pedals (or Twist), and Extension Panels is the best possible cockpit set that offers the user exceptional control over the plane, unparalleled immersion, and allows to take pilotage to a much higher level. The rendered image shows the pre-production version of the TECS. We will work together with the DCS experts to finalize the panels' layout, and confirm the text of the prints. If you read Russian, you might like studying these prints now: there might be something you wouldn't expect to see. Desktop version will be the first to see the world, and cockpit version will follow. Stay tuned for announcements. We estimate the price range for the main TECS base somewhere about US$ 200, and the extension panels – about 40 galactic credits. Now, the question is WHEN?! – stay tuned! Yours as always, Global VKB Team North America https://vkbcontrollers.com/ Europe https://flightsimcontrols.com/ Russia http://vkb-sim.pro/ Edited May 11, 2018 by UIV TITLE
craighl4 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Congratulations. That looks absolutely gorgeous.
Buckeye Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) You beautiful bastards....that looks incredible, exactly what I had been waiting for! Very excited for this, great work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited December 31, 2017 by =Buckeye= Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
craighl4 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) If my Russian translation is right, it has a mode switch. Will this carry across to the MCG as well? Three sets of mapping’s such as A2A, A2G and NAV for both the TECS and MCG. Edited December 31, 2017 by craighl4
Buckeye Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Wonder how those finger lifts work (if those are indeed finger lifts)? I had always seen them on the other side of the throttle I thought. Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
SneakyBastd Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Incredible. Love the concept. So I know what I'll be waiting in 2018 for.... 7700K@5Ghz, 32GB 3600 CL16, 3080.
funkyfranky Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Nice! I like the gear lever :) Looking forward to it... A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
craighl4 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Wonder how those finger lifts work (if those are indeed finger lifts)? I had always seen them on the other side of the throttle I thought. They look like throttle cut-offs to me.
microvax Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Looks really nice ! Especially excited about all metal structure and push trhough detents. One question though, will the Grips be swappable as anticipated ? Also can we get a picture of the control elements on the front of the throttle ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ?
joey45 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Looking smexy. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Outlaw24 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 What an outstanding concept, looking forward to more information. Spoiler: MSI Z790 Carbon WIFI, i9 14900KF, 64GB DDR4, MSI RTX 4090, Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate MCG Pro w/200mm Extension, Winwing Orion Rudder Pedals W/damper, UTC MK II Pro, Virpil TCS Plus Collective, Dell AW3418DW Gsync monitor, 970 Pro M2 2TB (for DCS), Playseat Air Force Seat, KW-980 Jetseat, Vaicom Pro, 3X TM Cougar with Lilliput 8" screens. Tek Creations panels and controllers.
StandingCow Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Wow... I am really liking this. And only 200 bucks (possibly?), I thought it would be much more. Any chance of an image of the front of the throttle? Edited December 31, 2017 by StandingCow 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo
M0ltar Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 My Gunfighter hasn't even arrived yet and I'm already convinced that I have something else that I must have in my life from VKB. This thing looks nuts. Really hope it has the present switch that was mentioned earlier. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
dburne Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 This certainly looks very interesting, I am intrigued. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Tello Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 This is great news! - Not sure 11cm is enough to reach stage 3 though :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
fiddlinjim Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 I would really like to see what each control point does, please post photo with English translation.
Rudel_chw Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Good description of the hardware ... but what about the software? How will we program each button? 200 dollars seems a very reasonable price, thanks for keeping this affordable :) For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Kapsu Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Wow, this looks really nice! :thumbup: I'm also curious to see if there is any other controls on front side of the grips other than that one button and antenna elevation wheel(?) we can see on those pics. Also are those hats on throttle all 4 way or more or are some of those 2 way hats? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS Finland - Finnish DCS community SF Squadron
aniron Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Looking great! A few questions: 1. What are the dimensions of the throttle unit and expansion panels? Are they the same or similar as the TM Warthog and Virpil T-50 throttles? 2. Can the expansion panels be used without the base throttle, either standalone USB or connected to a VKB Black box? 3. Do you still have WW2 and Space sim variants of this in the works, and if so, could you mix and match the modules - e.g. space throttle with TECS front module and WW2 back module? 4. Is there any chance of modularity or variants where you could drop in more toggle buttons instead of pushbuttons, like MCG-Pro vs. MCG? 5. Do you have any plans for a collective control module? Edited December 31, 2017 by aniron
EAKMotorsports Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 WOW Intel® Core™ i5-2500k CPU@4.20GHz 64 bit operation System Windows 10+ Pro NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - Memory: 16.0 GB - 500gb ssd samsung - Samsung 27"SyncMaster TA550 monitors [SIZE=1][B]- [/B][/SIZE][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]TM Hotas Warthog[/SIZE][/FONT] Trackir4 - TM Rudder Pedals.
hansangb Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Wow, very nice! Will you guys offer English instead of Cyrillic as well? I love that you guys made it easier for the VR folks. It's the future, so you guys are well positioned for it. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
some1 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Looks very interesting, but that part got me worrying: We see no point in overloading the surface with as many control knobs and switches as possible – it would likely make flying less handy and controlling the plane would become trickier. It's the exact opposite of what real aircraft manufacturers are doing with the HOTAS system. Ever seen a throttle of Typhoon, F-22 or F-35? Judging from the render, even mapping HOTAS of A-10, Harrier or F/A-18 will be a tough job on this one. Only one HAT, 3 pushbuttons and two switches? It's the exact opposite of "VR friendly" controller. Edited December 31, 2017 by some1 1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Mars Exulte Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 @some1 Ever looked at a Russian throttle unit? Even the new one do not appear to be festooned with buttons. A better way to word your statement "it's the opposite of what WESTERN aircraft manufacturers are doing". They're more or less replica controls. I wouldn't expect a massive departure from the real-world aircraft layout. -edit I had been planning on the VPC throttle until I saw this. Damn you, VKB... Hopefully it won't take as long to get this one pumped out, cause... I really want it... I might even wait another ridiculously long time to get it if necessary :P Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
some1 Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Well, making a replica controls for a plane we don't have in any simulator may not be the smartest idea business wise. In case you haven't noticed we're not getting a modern Russian aircraft for DCS any time soon, but we're getting plenty of western ones. FC3 airplanes don't simulate hotas functions properly, so you want to have as many buttons as possible for them too, especially in VR. I just don't see why I should be excited about this one, when Thrustmaster throttle is much more practical choice for the same price. You can't really play the "superior mechanics" part, as the Warthog throttle is also quite solid. And 11 cm of travel is actually less than the Warthog throttle has though it may be not fair to compare as the sliding movement will probably make it feel different. To be honest, I had much higher hopes for VKB. Maybe VKB will make a "pro" version in the future, like the did for their stick, in the meantime I'll just use TMHW. Edited December 31, 2017 by some1 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
RFC Rudel Posted December 31, 2017 Posted December 31, 2017 Well, making a replica controls for a plane we don't have in any simulator may not be the smartest idea business wise. In case you haven't noticed we're not getting a modern Russian aircraft for DCS any time soon, but we're getting plenty of western ones. FC3 airplanes don't simulate hotas functions properly, so you want to have as many buttons as possible for them too, especially in VR. I just don't see why I should be excited about this one, when Thrustmaster throttle is much more practical choice for the same price. You can't really play the "superior mechanics" part, as the Warthog throttle is also quite solid. And 11 cm of travel is actually less than the Warthog throttle has though it may be not fair to compare as the sliding movement will probably make it feel different. To be honest, I had much higher hopes for VKB. Maybe VKB will make a "pro" version in the future, like the did for their stick, in the meantime I'll just use TMHW. modular...………….diferent grips...……...side modules. and they hear the the recommendation,,,,,,so I expect several changes.
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