How far to "Feature Complete?"

[Rhinozherous]

Anyone can say how much of the planned features are at least usable? I am considering flying the Harrier, but I want to wait till at least the most of important features are in.

 

Thank you!

[phantomknight321]

How far to "Feature Complete?"

 

IMHO the Harrier is already very useable. In terms of features/updates here is what is missing that I consider critical to flying a decent mission in it:

 

-INS simulation

-Weapons updates (including JDAMS, maybe APKWS if they can make them, AGM65E, and advanced weapons deployment settings)

-The ability to input waypoints in the aircraft

-misc bug fixes and feature corrections

 

That’s seriously it. You could chalk up sounds, but there is already a fantastic sound mod that fixes some of the placeholder sounds. Everything else the aircraft needs is more study simulation stuff that will make it more interesting, but not needed to enjoy flying it.

 

*edit* don’t let the naysayers convince you, the mirage has hardly anything left to work on, there are just lots of people that want to bring razbam down for some reason when they are bringing amazing modules, easily one of the top tier devs alongside BST, Heatblur, Leatherneck before everyone decided they hate them all of a sudden, etc.

 

 

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Edited May 1, 2018 by phantomknight321

[Rhinozherous]

Thank you, this sounds good! I think I will soon get it.

I like the mirage very much, and I think it is very disapointing if anyone is "naysaying" as you mentioned. If you dont like it or not sure, dont buy it immediatly. Wait and see for reviews, there are tons on YouTube, if you dont like it just dont fly it.

[dresoccer4]

personally, this is my favorite module of them all. an absolute blast to fly and full of high-tech gear, but not overwhelming. 10/10 A+

[NineGravity]

do not rush,they will finish what they started.

[Mars Exulte]

Harrier is my favorite, ATM, and the inspiration for my pit build. Me luv long time. Most the big stuff is in, AFAIK, they're mostly in the wrap up stage.

[Sarge55]

Harrier is great fun as is...

 

That said, to answer your question "feature complete" could take quite awhile since there can always be some programming difficulties. Also, I think they need to wait for ED to finish up some of their work for inclusion in the Harrier.

 

If it is finished in the next two or three months I would be surprised, by the end of the year could be possible.

 

My two pennies. :D

[SonofEil]

I’ll agree with the consensus so far. There are a lot of buttons and switches that aren’t yet implemented or are half functional, but most of those fall into the “full study sim” column. As a flyable aircraft, as in takeoff-navigate-land, it feels quite mature.

I’m a big fan of DCS primarily for the excellent simulation of flight physics and Harrier is one of the most aerodynamically interesting modules on the platform, nearly equal to the Black Shark imo. (This is also a reason I’m super hyped about the Tomcat and not so much the Hornet.) The Harrier is a pure joy to learn to fly and I think RAZBAM is on the right track to completing a must-have module.

[Bloodhound57]

The Harrier is not planned to be a "full study sim?"

[SonofEil]

The Harrier is not planned to be a "full study sim?"

 

Is that a question or a statement?

[arkroyale048]

 

 

That’s seriously it. You could chalk up sounds, but there is already a fantastic sound mod that fixes some of the placeholder sounds. Everything else the aircraft needs is more study simulation stuff that will make it more interesting, but not needed to enjoy flying it.

 

 

 

 

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What is this mod you speak of ? Does this make the silent RWR work ?

[Rhinozherous]

What is this mod you speak of ? Does this make the silent RWR work ?

 

I am also interested in this... the only sound mod I found so far is this one:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3216792/

[Bloodhound57]

Just a question.

Edited May 2, 2018 by Bloodhound57

[SonofEil]

Just a question.

 

Ah. I'm under the impression their intention is to make the Harrier as complete as possible. Standard omissions such as IFF apply, of course.

[Rhinozherous]

Are Mavericks not working at the moment? I heard it on a youtube video.. but I bought the harrier today and wanted to start tomorrow with training, for sure also with mavs. :-P

[HoneyBadger]

Mavericks are working with the Harrier. They're a bit convoluted compared to the A-10C:

 

(watch all of Redkite's videos on the Harrier, btw)

[Ramsay]

Are Mavericks not working at the moment?

Mavericks aren't working in 2.5.1 Open Beta - Sensor Select Forward to switch to the Maverick camera fails to work.

 

It was working in 2.5.0 and so is expected to be fixed in the next patch.

 

Found the bug.

As usual it is a small thing but it prevents the pilot from enabling the IRMAV sensor.

 

It will be fixed on the next release.

[arkroyale048]

I am also interested in this... the only sound mod I found so far is this one:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3216792/

 

 

 

bumping this

[ouPhrontis]

bumping this

 

The linked sound mod seems peculiar to me, because in the A1-AV8BB-NFM-000 manual you can run a search for voice warning, and there are many mentions throughout, say for WATER WATER, or MANUAL FUEL, etc and the aforementioned mod has a set of mostly tones, whilst I'm not saying these are necessarily incorrect; (if the tones do exist aboard the AV-8B) they're most likely accompanied with the relevant voice warning.

 

As for dates on completeness, these as I'm sure most will appreciate would be fluid; programming something as complex as this is rarely plain sailing (flying?) You could look to their known bug list for perhaps a crude/approximate indication.

Edited May 3, 2018 by ouPhrontis
Poor wording.

[arkroyale048]

In my experience; only Master Caution has worked.

Maneuver tones hasnt worked despite claim that it has been placed in (albeit placeholders) two patches ago.

 

RWR also has not worked.

 

I am curious about the said sound mod in the hopes that it can at least make the maneuver tone and RWR work.

[bigalsunit]

Not sure if this is the mod being referenced earlier but it is a good one nonetheless.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=197149

[Raz_Specter]

I would certainly recommend the Harrier as a airframe in DCS, its one of, if not my fav airframe in the sim. I come from a A10C background and this, while doesnt carry as much ordenance certainly can pack a punch with SideArms, GBU-12s and Mavs.

 

Defo worth a buy IMPO

 

Cheers Specter

[nessuno0505]

I'm very interested in the av-8b for its VTOL capabilities, I'm Just waiting for It to Be more feature complete (and maybe for a sale). Since I'm italian, I'm also interested in a plane Italy navy uses (now being replaced by f-35). But italian version is av-8b plus, so my question: does Razbam Plan to add radar - maybe based on f/a 18's when Will Be available - to upgrade n/a to plus, or will the av-8b always Be n/a variant?

Edited May 3, 2018 by nessuno0505

[Schmirco]

In an early Statement RAZBAM said that they plan to built the AV-8B Plus, but waiting for ED's A2G Radar tech first.

[nessuno0505]

It seems to me quite unlikely to have two different modules of the same airframe, differing only by the radar, and maybe sold separately. More likely a (payment?) upgrade of the n/a module, to have something similar to l-39 c / za?