delevero Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Dear forum. I found a cool feature today that I think many of you do not know about. As you know with the f18c it is easy to turn on the afterburner by accident, here is a trick to avoid it to save fuel.. :smartass: 1). Open the F18c plane controls.. 2). Search for the word "afterburner" 3). now you see the command " cycle afterburner detent ON/OFF 4). Assign a button on your keyboard or joystick to this button on the same page. ( by default this button is not assigned to anything ) 5). Fly your hornet and fly with example 50% power. 6). Press the button you assigned tocycle afterburner detent on/off 7). now the trottle should stop at 100% power and not turn on the afterburner. That is really cool :thumbup: to turn on your afterburner, again reduce your power to example 50% and click the button.. Now when you push your trottle to max it will go beyond 100% to like 150% with afterburner.. Happy flying...
shagrat Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Actually it's a feature introduced with todays update... Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
delevero Posted June 13, 2018 Author Posted June 13, 2018 Actually it's a feature introduced with todays update... I thought it was an "old" feature, i dident notise that just thought i found a feature that I had overlooked for a while and thought i share the tip :-)
shagrat Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 I thought it was an "old" feature, i dident notise that just thought i found a feature that I had overlooked for a while and thought i share the tip :-)Anyway a cool feature for many with a Joystick without AB-Detent or that don't want to switch the Warthogs detent. :) Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
ED Team cofcorpse Posted June 13, 2018 ED Team Posted June 13, 2018 Also, you can turn this detent on or off in special options tab. And then use fingerlifts (default key '0') to override this detent.
deltaleader Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 I guess I don't get it. I now have to push 0 in order to put my Warthog throttle into AB? I have the AB detent installed on my warthog but there is no simple way to hit 0 and then lift my throttle in to AB. This update kind of does not make sense to me. Asus Strix X299-XE, Intel 7820X @4.6ghz, 32GB G.Skill Ram, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Win10 Pro x64, WinWing F-18 Hotas, Couger MFD's, TrackIR, Buttkicker, Volairsim pit.
Revelation Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 I guess I don't get it. I now have to push 0 in order to put my Warthog throttle into AB? It should only be that way if you configure it to do that. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
deltaleader Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Well I just changed the keybinding. So "Cycle Afterburner Detent - ON/OFF" is now "0". Just need to remember to make sure that is off each flight. Asus Strix X299-XE, Intel 7820X @4.6ghz, 32GB G.Skill Ram, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Win10 Pro x64, WinWing F-18 Hotas, Couger MFD's, TrackIR, Buttkicker, Volairsim pit.
probad Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Well I just changed the keybinding. So "Cycle Afterburner Detent - ON/OFF" is now "0". Just need to remember to make sure that is off each flight. no, you can (and should) turn off this feature completely in the special options section if you use a throttle with hardware detent like the warthog
Fercyful Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 I really like that new feature!! Problem solved for my X52 pro. No AF led light in cockpit but this works. Thanks ED!
Mezelf Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Uh, I can't find neither the "Afterburner detent" control nor the "Special Option" for F/A 18... Am I missing something?
shagrat Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 I guess I don't get it. I now have to push 0 in order to put my Warthog throttle into AB? I have the AB detent installed on my warthog but there is no simple way to hit 0 and then lift my throttle in to AB. This update kind of does not make sense to me. If you don't map the button or activate any new features you are good. Warthog does not need this with AB-detent installed. The hardware already provides the "bump"/detent. But other joysticks don't have a detent, so you won't recognize when you hit into the afterburner area and consume a lot of precious fuel until you notice what's going on. That is where this OPTIONAL keybinds and Settings can be very handy. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
David OC Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 This is not just to save on fuel, will be interesting to test this when doing the level break pattern. You shouldn't need the burner and a few times I've hit the burner and this can mess you up, the only time you should really need it is in the groove and possible wave off. Will need to just bind it close and easy I guess. i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
Steel Jaw Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Ok, so my x65 throttle has both idle and afterburner detents...how can I set my throtitle burner detent match the sim's? Edited June 14, 2018 by Mower "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Eldur Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Also, you can turn this detent on or off in special options tab. And then use fingerlifts (default key '0') to override this detent. For me it was on already and wondered why the AB didn't come on. Reminded me of the patch notes, went in the menu and mapped the detent button. Later I got the idea to map the finger lift (both) instead which I did, but didn't have time to try yet. I think it's a great solution this way. But I still want to have some FFB throttles to get that in a more realistic manner where it's possible to feel the detent - and have it dynamically placed right where it belongs in any plane without having to mess with the axis setup to match a physical bump stop
deltaleader Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 no, you can (and should) turn off this feature completely in the special options section if you use a throttle with hardware detent like the warthog Done deal...I got it now. Thank you. Asus Strix X299-XE, Intel 7820X @4.6ghz, 32GB G.Skill Ram, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Win10 Pro x64, WinWing F-18 Hotas, Couger MFD's, TrackIR, Buttkicker, Volairsim pit.
maxTRX Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) It might be a cool feature for some but for those who don't read the changelog before hopping in a jet after the fresh update (like me) triggered a barrage of WTF's before I finally decided to read. The detent must have been enabled by default. Edited June 14, 2018 by Gripes323
shagrat Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Ok, so my x65 throttle has both idle and afterburner detents...how can I set my throtitle burner detent match the sim's?Need to adjust with custom axis tuning. Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
045 Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 It might be a cool feature for some but for those who don't read the changelog before hopping in a jet after the fresh update (like me) triggered a barrage of WTF's before I finally decided to read. The detent must have been enabled by default. Haha, this happened to me too! When I first updated it wasn't enabled, then later it was. I thought I broke my throttle until I looked at the digital one in the cockpit.
Mr_sukebe Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 OP thanks for highlighting, much appreciated 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Tomsk Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Personally I shaved the corner off the insert of my TM Warthog throttle. That way you can feel the stop at full mil, but then "push through" into afterburner.
HiJack Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Need to adjust with custom axis tuning. No need to change axis. For now you need to uncheck the "Afterburner detent" in the Special settings page for the F-18. ED have implemented the afterburner detent wrong, hopefully fixed in a later patch.
mhe Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 Need to adjust with custom axis tuning. So we actually can adjust at which throttle level the AB kicks in? Without using curves? | i9 12900K | 64GB DDR5-6000 | STRIX RTX 4090 OC | LG 38GN950 38" | | Hanns-G HT225HPB | TIR 5 & Varjo Aero | Virpil Throttle & Stick | TM TPRs | You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing.
HiJack Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 So we actually can adjust at which throttle level the AB kicks in? Without using curves? No, you are right, this is different from stick to stick so you may need to adjust the axis to get the AB activating after the dent.
GLUTIUS MAXIMUS Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 I guess I don't get it. I now have to push 0 in order to put my Warthog throttle into AB? I have the AB detent installed on my warthog but there is no simple way to hit 0 and then lift my throttle in to AB. This update kind of does not make sense to me. No you dont, I was thinking the same thing because my warthog started acting funny and realised that i had to uncheck the detent option in the specials tab.
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