rediculas view from a rookie

[chaser]

So im 3 weeks into what i thought would be an enjoyable experience

 

 

Level of investment

Persian Gulf

FC3

Tracker Ir

Thrustmaster Worthug

 

Computer specs

CPU I5 core 3570k

Ram DDR3 8GB

Board ASUS Tek

Card Radeon R9 200 - 300Mz Core - 4 GB memory

 

My experience

 

Overly long loading times, intermittent freezes/ crashes, shaky graphics especially on the Persian Gulf map, Tracker ir works when it wants to-despite downloading a number of profiles,

 

 

 

Reality

If I had not spent a large amount of cash I would be removing DCS world from my PC

Am I missing something as I was really hoping for an enjoyable in sim experience, but in reality I have a frustrating sim that's problematical at the best of times

I wonder if this is the same for other Rookies that simply give up

 

 

 

Over to you !

[Rudel_chw]

I believe that the problem is that you have a video card below game requirements, the minimum is an R9 280X ... I dont even know an R9 200 ... perhaps yours is an R7 200 ?

 

 

Edit: Why you didnt try first the free version of DCS before spending money on DCS modules?

[dSAF Dancer]

With this pc you have to keep the settings extremely low, otherwise you won't get decent framerates. Dcs is extremely heavy on your system, especially memory.

[chaser]

I believe that the problem is that you have a video card below game requirements, the minimum is an R9 280X ... I dont even know an R9 200 ... perhaps yours is an R7 200 ?

 

 

Edit: Why you didnt try first the free version of DCS before spending money on DCS modules?

 

I did and was enjoying learning but thought id spend some money and add a few things other thank flying with a game pad

 

Defo R200 series

[chaser]

With this pc you have to keep the settings extremely low, otherwise you won't get decent framerates. Dcs is extremely heavy on your system, especially memory.

 

Memory I can easily over come, but is that going to help - from what ive read on the forum - not really

[Varis]

What kind of missions do you run? Affects at least CPU load when there is lots of stuff (scripts, AI).

 

You'll generally need a mid tier system to run DCS. (For VR, pretty much top end.)

[chaser]

What kind of missions do you run? Affects at least CPU load when there is lots of stuff (scripts, AI).

 

You'll generally need a mid tier system to run DCS. (For VR, pretty much top end.)

 

Training- basic stuff

[Ramsay]

Memory I can easily over come, but is that going to help - from what ive read on the forum - not really

To run the Persian Gulf you really want more than 8GB RAM.

 

For loading times, it depends what you are seeing

+5 min loads can be improved by adding a newer/faster HD

+2 min loads - is pretty normal, as the bottle neck switches from the HD transfer rate to the speed your CPU can unpack files/textures, etc.

 

SSD is a worth while investment - it reduced stutters/lags a little but didn't do much for map loads as I was already using a fast 4TB HD

 

My old i7@2.8GHz has trouble with lots of AI (+40), so MP servers are off limits (<25 fps) but it's good enough for SP and coop with my son.

 

My Specs:

i7 860 @2.8GHz , 12GB DDR3 , GTX1050Ti 4GB, 1TB SSD, 4+2TB HD, MSFFB2 joystick, X52 Pro Thottle, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080

 

YMMV

[chaser]

To run the Persian Gulf you really want more than 8GB RAM.

 

For loading times, it depends what you are seeing

+5 min loads can be improved by adding a newer/faster HD

+2 min loads - is pretty normal, as the bottle neck switches from the HD transfer rate to the speed your CPU can unpack files/textures, etc.

 

SSD is a worth while investment - it reduced stutters/lags a little but didn't do much for map loads as I was already using a fast 4TB HD

 

My old i7@2.8GHz has trouble with lots of AI (+40), so MP servers are off limits (<25 fps) but it's good enough for SP and coop with my son.

 

My Specs:

i7 860 @2.8GHz , 12GB DDR3 , GTX1050Ti 4GB, 1TB SSD, 4+2TB HD, MSFFB2 joystick, X52 Pro Thottle, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080

 

YMMV

 

haha +5 min loads more like 10 min

Ive got more ram on order taking the board up to 32 and I suspected that an ssd will make an over all improvement

thanks

[FragBum]

Without knowing exactly your situation DCS can be an intimidating experience at first however there is a silver lining once you get through the basics. :thumbup:

 

Recommend

16GB RAM

SSD atleast for the DCS game install

min 1060/1070/RX Vega for 2K screen 1080ti for VR

CPU Clock as fast as you can get. although for 2K 3.8Ghz should work.

 

DCS will get you hooked once you get a taste for the SIM you'll be getting fancy joysticks, pedals and worse if you get into helicopters cyclic and collective as well.

 

 

Oh and long load times are part and parcel of DCS even on high end PC's, wait till you jump onto a multi player server. :P

[Harlikwin]

I'll jump in here as a recent FNG as well (well I flew sims for a long time a long time ago, and even Lomac way back when). And recently came back to this. Overall I'm very impressed. And I just spent way too much money on DCS modules with the recent sale.

 

I'm running a borderline laptop system, but it runs fine if I turn off some of the more intensive GFX features I'm generally pulling 75fps for my limited training missions and anywhere from 30-70 for actual shooting things missions. This is at 1080P res.

 

Basically:

i7 4720HQ 3.5Ghz

GTX980M

16GB ram (DDR4?)

And a SATA3 EVO SSD

Trackir and HOTAS

 

I don't find load times to be bad or overall performance to be bad but I do wish I could use better GFX settings for sure. I do drool over some of the VR stuff I've seen posted online, but that will have to wait a year or two.

[dopebogey]

Ya, Harlikwins build above is a good build for non-VR. And I would(my opinion)always say an SSD is a requirement. Old mechanicals are just WAY to slow for DCS, especially now that we are into 2.5+.

 

Also, I am not too knowledgeable on Radeon cards, but I think your cards equivalent to an NVIDIA card is a GTX 660 and that would be WAY underpowered for DCS.

 

:)

Edited November 28, 2018 by walleye62

[VZ_342]

Instead of the Warthog ($~500ish) I’d have bought a decent video card, at least a 970. (And a motherboard that can use it). (Don’t recall the brand, just Google “970 video card”)

 

Any $40 joystick is a better choice than any gamepad.

 

You definitely need more RAM, at least 16gb.

[chaser]

Without knowing exactly your situation DCS can be an intimidating experience at first however there is a silver lining once you get through the basics. :thumbup:

 

Recommend

16GB RAM

SSD atleast for the DCS game install

min 1060/1070/RX Vega for 2K screen 1080ti for VR

CPU Clock as fast as you can get. although for 2K 3.8Ghz should work.

 

DCS will get you hooked once you get a taste for the SIM you'll be getting fancy joysticks, pedals and worse if you get into helicopters cyclic and collective as well.

 

 

Oh and long load times are part and parcel of DCS even on high end PC's, wait till you jump onto a multi player server. :P

 

 

thanks

[nessuno0505]

1080ti for VR

 

I'm in VR with a 1070 and I'm fine. Only Caucasus and Nevada, no Persian Gulf though.

[chaser]

thanks gentlemen

[ricktoberfest]

So im 3 weeks into what i thought would be an enjoyable experience

 

 

Level of investment

Persian Gulf

FC3

Tracker Ir

Thrustmaster Worthug

 

Computer specs

CPU I5 core 3570k

Ram DDR3 8GB

Board ASUS Tek

Card Radeon R9 200 - 300Mz Core - 4 GB memory

 

My experience

 

Overly long loading times, intermittent freezes/ crashes, shaky graphics especially on the Persian Gulf map, Tracker ir works when it wants to-despite downloading a number of profiles,

 

 

 

Reality

If I had not spent a large amount of cash I would be removing DCS world from my PC

Am I missing something as I was really hoping for an enjoyable in sim experience, but in reality I have a frustrating sim that's problematical at the best of times

I wonder if this is the same for other Rookies that simply give up

 

 

 

Over to you !

 

 

 

Your specs are close to what mine were before 2.5. Right now I’m running

I5 3570k overclocked to 4.5Ghz

Nvidia GTX770

16 Gb ram

 

Before 2.5 I could do with an old graphics card and 8 Gb of memory but that just isn’t the case anymore.

 

I get 40-80fps on medium graphics settings (1080 resolution) as long as the missions aren’t huge. I don’t have an SSD but even so it only takes 10 minutes to go from first click on the desktop to flying. Once you’ve loaded a map then new missions on that same map only take a minute to load (textures are cached). An SSD would help with load times but won’t do much about graphics settings or FPS.

 

 

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[Svsmokey]

Pagefile on ssd is a great stutter-reducer

[FragBum]

I'm in VR with a 1070 and I'm fine. Only Caucasus and Nevada, no Persian Gulf though.

 

Good to know, only had experience.with 980ti with 1.5/2.2 and now 1080ti in 2.5 I know we took a performance hit with deferred Shadiding locked in on 2.5. :thumbup:

Edited November 29, 2018 by FragBum

[chaser]

on a final note

Ive ordered in

More Ram

SSD Drive

and found out that my video card is actually a Radeon 200 series 390

[FragBum]

on a final note

Ive ordered in

More Ram

SSD Drive

and found out that my video card is actually a Radeon 200 series 390

 

So your ordering a 2080Ti as well.. you will need to O/C to 4.5Ghz plus,.. Welcome To The Machine. :thumbup: :D:D

[Wexler]

Without knowing exactly your situation DCS can be an intimidating experience at first however there is a silver lining once you get through the basics.

 

Can sign up to this one. Begining is sometimes very frustrating. There are so many aspects to learn. Or even figure out that something is a big aspect to learn :-)

Edited November 29, 2018 by Wexler
Missed newer pages.

[Mars Exulte]

You are way below spec. First mistake.

Second mistake, impulse buying a bunch of stuff before you even know if you'll like it.

 

Do some research next time, and pay attention to system reqs. I don't know if it salvageable with your current rig, but if it is, DCS requires some discipline and time investment. The manuals for the aircraft are hundreds of pages long. Even a cursory glance would reveal you're getting into something complex.

 

So, double down and work at it, or write it off as lesson learned, in come back after you've upgraded your rig.