SMH Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Refraction is real, but too taxing performances wise. Though, since rain drops do have sort of refraction I would like to see how taxing it is actually. S! Exactly. Displacement (the raindrop effect) is another cheat for refraction and they don't have any philosophical problem including that in the sim. We're not building Focke Wulfs here, we're simulating what they look like. (And sound like and behave like, but none of those are affected in any way by the 3D models.) We're free to fudge the model in any way that helps it look closer to reality, and reducing the thickness of the windscreen frames, particularly the side and bottom, would look a lot closer to reality than what we have now. On the *interior cockpit model only*, of course. Edited July 16, 2019 by SMH
jawzzy Posted July 19, 2019 Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Anyway. here's a photo of a real 190 from a museum that shows what a dramatic difference that armored glass makes in dropping the view through the windscreen. Look at the the bulges above the machine guns, on the cowling. See how low is the right one, compared to the left one, because is seen through the armored glass? I also have issues with the green armor glass. It's way too green. That armor glass was made by Carl ZEIS!!!!!! It's a lens. Another bug introduced by museum wrecks with wrong cockpit glass. Edited July 19, 2019 by jawzzy NZXT-Phantom820; Gigabyte Aorus x570 Master:Ryzen 3950x Corsair H150i;AORUS GTX 1080 Ti 11G; 32GB(2x16)G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz(16-16-16-36); Aorus PCIe Gen4 m.2 NMVe 2TB SSD;Samsung EvoPlusM.2NMVe 1TB SSD;Crucial M4 128GB SSD+Crucial M4 256GB SSD: Coolermaster 1200W psu; CH Fighterstick+CH Pro pedals+Saitek X45 Win10 64bit
Mainstay Posted July 20, 2019 Posted July 20, 2019 Is ED gonna adjust this? Just bough the product and i have to say its indeed really annoying to see.
OG84 Posted July 30, 2019 Posted July 30, 2019 If i'm not mistaken, then making the lower bar smaller won't be of any benefit, because you would also have to lower the hood, and then then modeling workaround fun would start... Gesendet von meinem SM-G960F mit Tapatalk Favorite module: F16C Currently learning F15E 13900k - RTX 4090 - 64GB DDR5 - Varjo Aero - TM Warthog Hotas - Pedals
SMH Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 It doesn't appear to be flush with the hood, at least not on the interior cockpit model. But if it is you can still do it. When your POV is in the cockpit the cockpit interior, canopy, and other parts around the cockpit are a second model that replaces those areas of the external model. All they'd need to do is make the hood one of those parts that's swapped.
Burning Bridges Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 I think ED is not going to change this in the near future. The sales are probably extremely satisfactory and a few dissatisfied people don't matter. I consider this plane a wonderful "what-if" and have enough other planes with proper forward vision.
toutenglisse Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Now the frame of windscreen shows to be at the right position relatively to guns' cowlings, wich are visible from cockpit view. The "bar" is a bit big but now I find the whole is OK.
Veteran66 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Posted August 3, 2019 This is the Problem, the Glass is to short. Inside the Cockpit we do not see the frame, we see the Glass texture (end of Glass). German WW2 Radio calls Mod: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2161798/
iFoxRomeo Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 This is the Problem, the Glass is to short. Inside the Cockpit we do not see the frame, we see the Glass texture (end of Glass). :thumbup: Spoiler PC Specs: Ryzen 9 5900X, 3080ti, 64GB RAM, Oculus Quest 3
Ragnar65 Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 Guys, due to my decisionfinding process of purchasing the Anton, I´ve stumbled over this threat. To be honest, I haven´t seen any problem with that "bar" when watching the various YT-videos of Spudknocker or the GrimReapers... Nearly unbelievable that this issue fills 12 pages of threat till now. ;-) X-56 HOTAS, TFRP Pedals Modules: F-5E, FC3, F/A-18C, Mirage 2000 C, AV-8BNA, FW-190 A-8, F-16C Viper SystemSpecs: AMD A8-6600K (4x3,9GHz), 16 GB RAM, NVidia GeForce GTX1070 8GB, WIN10 64bit
razo+r Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 You can see the problem once you have it. Then it's not unbelievable anymore.
toutenglisse Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 This is the Problem, the Glass is to short. Inside the Cockpit we do not see the frame, we see the Glass texture (end of Glass). Not in my point of view - comparing cockpit view and F2 view, the bottom part of windscreen glass really seems to be at the right place now. You find it short I think because the frame's metal cover doesn't appear in cockpit view, to make the link to cowling's hinges. But the mesures seem to be the same in my pictures, between external and cockpit view. The only problem is seeing the real height of windscreen's frame (thickness of "bar") from pilot's view, because no refraction, but to me … the compromize is OK.
ED Team Groove Posted August 6, 2019 ED Team Posted August 6, 2019 We hear you. A test. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
SMH Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 We hear you. A test. Perfect! Can't wait. (Can't wait to be able to drop the bomb again either. ;) )
Magic Zach Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Wooaah Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 4090, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5-3600, Samsung 990 PRO Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria, Germany
Veteran66 Posted August 7, 2019 Author Posted August 7, 2019 look good :) German WW2 Radio calls Mod: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2161798/
MAD-MM Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 We hear you. A test. Nice Groove.. Once you have tasted Flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your Eyes turned Skyward. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 9./JG27
golani79 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Looking good - thanks! Gesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A6013 mit Tapatalk >> DCS liveries by golani79 <<
SMH Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 So to all of you who said it was impossible, thanks for the support. 1
PitbullVicious Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 We hear you. A test. Great thing Groove! Just curious, what is your current solution? Changing the model, or some other wizardry? :) i9-9900K @ 5.1GHz | MSI Ventus 3X OC RTX3090 24GB | 64GB 3200MHz DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z390-E | Asus Xonar DGX 5.1 Sound Card | Virpil T50CM2 base w/ F/A-18C / A-10C / Virpil T50CM2 Grip | WinWing Super Taurus Throttle | MFG pedals | TekCreations Hornet UFC, Landing Panel, Right Console | WinWing Hornet Combat Ready Panel | Buddy Fox UFC | Foxx Mount | 3 x TM Cougar MFD | HP Reverb G2 | Wacom Intuos S (with VRK) | Honeycomb Alpha Yoke | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | CH Fighter Stick Pro & Throttle | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR 5 | Oculus Rift CV1 善く戦う者は、まず勝つべからざるを為して、以て敵の勝つべきを待つ。
ED Team Groove Posted August 8, 2019 ED Team Posted August 8, 2019 Great thing Groove! Just curious, what is your current solution? Changing the model, or some other wizardry? :) I nagged the modellers to make it more realistic. It´s not refraction being simulated for sure. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
PitbullVicious Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 Thanks for the reply :) i9-9900K @ 5.1GHz | MSI Ventus 3X OC RTX3090 24GB | 64GB 3200MHz DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z390-E | Asus Xonar DGX 5.1 Sound Card | Virpil T50CM2 base w/ F/A-18C / A-10C / Virpil T50CM2 Grip | WinWing Super Taurus Throttle | MFG pedals | TekCreations Hornet UFC, Landing Panel, Right Console | WinWing Hornet Combat Ready Panel | Buddy Fox UFC | Foxx Mount | 3 x TM Cougar MFD | HP Reverb G2 | Wacom Intuos S (with VRK) | Honeycomb Alpha Yoke | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | CH Fighter Stick Pro & Throttle | MS Sidewinder 2 FFB | Track IR 5 | Oculus Rift CV1 善く戦う者は、まず勝つべからざるを為して、以て敵の勝つべきを待つ。
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