DCS: F-15C Eagle

[streakeagle]

We have the F-14B, F-16C, and F/A-18C. The MiG-29 and Su-27 opposition are not an option. So, the F-15C should be the next modern fighter, which would complete the US "teen" series.

 

The existing Flaming Cliffs 3 F-15C is a joy to fly, but I don't fly it often because I much prefer aircraft with fully modeled systems/clickable cockpits.

 

The aircraft I really want is the F-4 Phantom, and it is planned but indefinitely suspended pending other priorities. I would like the F-4 before anything else. But the F-15C might be fairly easy to bring up to full blown DCS module standards since the flight model and engine dynamics are already done and the cockpit appears to have been designed to allow full animation and be fully clickable.

 

I know Eagle Dynamics already has a full schedule, but the title of this subforum is "DCS Wishlist", after all!

[Gierasimov]

Only thing is that if Razbam is planning to do F-15E, doing C would be similar to a third party making Mi-24D. I guess that from the sales point it would depend on who delivers first., on the other hand, I prefer a multirole fighter.

[streakeagle]

Despite the outward similarity, the C and E are very different aircraft. The extra weight and the CFT's drag limits the F-15E's performance even with the -229 engines. The F-15C already exists, it would be better, especially for multiplayer, if its radar and other systems were modeled more realistically.

 

Bonus wish: pilot body showing in cockpit whether or not the F-15C is ever upgraded to a high fidelity module.

[Bulldog_1]

The aircraft I really want is the F-4 Phantom, and it is planned but indefinitely suspended pending other priorities. I would like the F-4 before anything else. But the F-15C might be fairly easy to bring up to full blown DCS module standards since the flight model and engine dynamics are already done and the cockpit appears to have been designed to allow full animation and be fully clickable.

 

+1 :thumbup:

[wilbur81]

Agreed, Streak... As a Hornet and Viper owner, I have ZERO interest in the Mud-hen. F-15C is the greatest pure air to air fighter of all the teens...and a true legend.

[JUICE-AWG]

Only thing is that if Razbam is planning to do F-15E, doing C would be similar to a third party making Mi-24D. I guess that from the sales point it would depend on who delivers first., on the other hand, I prefer a multirole fighter.

 

Maybe Razbam could consider a combo module "The DCS Eagle" Both a C and E variants and add to the price...say a $99 Module?

 

 

Despite the outward similarity, the C and E are very different aircraft. The extra weight and the CFT's drag limits the F-15E's performance even with the -229 engines. The F-15C already exists, it would be better, especially for multiplayer, if its radar and other systems were modeled more realistically.

 

Bonus wish: pilot body showing in cockpit whether or not the F-15C is ever upgraded to a high fidelity module.

AMEN!

 

 

@Kdrum60, were you at Kadena in 83-84?

Edited January 19, 2020 by =JUICE=

[Rick50]

Maybe Razbam could consider a combo module "The DCS Eagle" Both a C and E variants and add to the price...say a $99 Module?

 

 

Ooh!!! I'd buy that!!

 

Sure, they don't really fly the same... but it may be not insurmountable, as some of the data needed would actually have some duplication. Not a lot, but some. But whatever their source for data, the source may have data for both variants. That and I think C and E as a package would sell very well indeed!

[Bulldog_1]

@juice Aug 90 to Aug 92.

[SkateZilla]

IIRC BST was looking at possibly doing DCS:F-15C after the PFM was done.

 

But this was a long time ago, before they re integrated back into Eagle Dynamics

[bies]

Considering ED already has F-15C flight model, external model and F/A-18C AA avionics which is very similar to F-15 and considering F-15C popularity I thing they will model fighter Eagle sooner or later.

 

It's less complicated due to being AA exclusively so it would take whole lot less time to model F-15C than Hornet.

[QuiGon]

It's less complicated due to being AA exclusively so it would take whole lot less time to model F-15C than Hornet.

AFAIK the F-15A/C is A-G capable, including CCIP and maybe even CCRP bomb release modes. The USAF is just not making any those functions, the Israelis on the other hand did.

[draconus]

Always +1 for the Eagle!

[Kev2go]

Yea would be nice if we got a full fidelity f15c of the fc3 aircraft. Even better if such a module could potentially be expanded further as a proper 2000s eagle with aim9x , jhmcs and link 16.

Edited January 21, 2020 by Kev2go

[Evoman]

While it would seem like a no brainier and easier to just upgrade the F-15, I feel like if it has not been done yet its probably for a good reason that is holding up ED from doing it. For now I have plenty to keep me busy for a long time mastering the F-14 and Viggen. But when ever the F-4 Phantom does eventually get released It will be a day one buy for me.

[Wizard_03]

Yea would be nice if we got a full fidelity f15c of the fc3 aircraft. Even better if it be expanded further as a proper 2000s eagle with aim9x , jhmcs and link 16.

 

 

+1

[Zaku]

AFAIK the F-15A/C is A-G capable, including CCIP and maybe even CCRP bomb release modes. The USAF is just not making any those functions, the Israelis on the other hand did.

 

I've heard that the 1st Fighter Wing trained for strike with their F-15Cs in the 80s and 90s, but they were the only unit to do so.

[Baco]

it would make a lot ofsense, even tho I dont buy pure fighters, it makes perfect sense, only cockpit and systems needed.

But, it is still a first line fighter in many NATO countries, I doubt the systems would be available to simulate in full detail...I cant imagine israel and japan very happy with the info disclosed.. never the less it is a 70s aircraft.

[Kev2go]

it would make a lot ofsense, even tho I dont buy pure fighters, it makes perfect sense, only cockpit and systems needed.

But, it is still a first line fighter in many NATO countries, I doubt the systems would be available to simulate in full detail...I cant imagine israel and japan very happy with the info disclosed.. never the less it is a 70s aircraft.

 

 

USA uses it as a "pure" fighter, but some limited secondary attack capabilities have always been present for the F15A/C but simply left dormant in US service purely due to the AS Eagle pilot community's stubborn insistence for "not a pound for air to ground". CCIP and CCRP modes exist for use with Mk80 series bombs, as well as integration for EO based GBu8 ( although latter EO bomb was never used on eagle AFAIK, but operation described within -34) for which the radar screen is alternatively switched over to view its TV imagery. Israel made use of these already present capabilities IRL on their Eagles.

Edited January 21, 2020 by Kev2go

[bies]

AFAIK the F-15A/C is A-G capable, including CCIP and maybe even CCRP bomb release modes. The USAF is just not making any those functions, the Israelis on the other hand did.

 

Yes they gave the Eagle capability to drop dumb bombs in CCIP like the Viper had when released in early access. Never use that in combat.

[streakeagle]

I have been flying the F-15C exclusively for the past couple of days, and it just makes me wish it was fully modeled that much more. I love the flight model. It just kills me not to be able to operate it properly. It is ironic that a much more complex aircraft like the AJS-37 is fully modeled while the much simpler F-15C is stuck in Flaming Cliffs simple avionics mode. I am a pure air-to-air fan, but I fly the AJS-37 to enjoy its systems/flight modeling. If the JA-37 was available, I would almost never fly the AJS-37 again :P

 

Until the F-4 is released, the F-15C would get a lot more of my time if it was fully modeled.

[bies]

So long no FC3 airplane had been remodeled as full fidelity module. It may mean something or may not. I don't know.

[Oceandar]

Yes they gave the Eagle capability to drop dumb bombs in CCIP like the Viper had when released in early access. Never use that in combat.

I recall from the old day of Lomac one of ED devs said the F-15C (no idea which block or version) actually much more capable in AG compared to Su-27. The USAF just didnt use it and dedicated only on AA superiority.