DarkStar79 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 What is the max range you can get with the LMAV when lasing yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raelias Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 the range of the laser beam, which is about 10nm Win10 64, MSI Krait Gaming Z370, I7 8700K, Geforce 1080Ti FTW3 ,32 GB Ram, Samsung 980 EVO SSD Modules: Combind Arms, A-10C, F-86F, F/A-18, F-16, Flaming Cliffs, KA-50, L-39, P-51, UH-1, Christen Eagle II, Persian Gulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) What is the max range you can get with the LMAV when lasing yourself? TL;DR: The laser spot has to be on the target (i.e. within 8 Nm) at time of impact. IIRC another limitation is battery life i.e. it used to self detonate after 60s of flight*. * Checking "agm65_family.lua", Life_Time now equals 110 seconds Detail: The max. range of the TGP designating laser is approx. 8 Nm (15km) If you are further away from the target, the laser "spot" floats in mid air at the end of a 8 Nm "beam". Edited March 1, 2020 by Ramsay Check .lua, AGM-65 Life_Time now equals 110 seconds i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar79 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 hm thats strange. I made a shot of about 18nm from like angels 25 if i remeber correctly when i tested it yesturday.. Have to test it again then, if it was a bug or something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyVCAW-1 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 not a bug i regularly launch at the lowest FL200 and around 15Nm out. Nobody likes me because I'm unsafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar79 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Ok so I guess its LMAV is superior to the IR MAVS then. Is there any point in using the IR MAVS when using TGP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will- Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 you can slave the ir seeker to the tgp. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preendog Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 You could shoot as far away as you like. The limitation was that you needed to be within 8nm of the target at impact time, or the missile would go stupid at the 8 mile point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Ok so I guess its LMAV is superior to the IR MAVS then. Is there any point in using the IR MAVS when using TGP? Well, in DCS I get unlimited supply of Mavs so I can load up 4 IR MAVs and fire them off at 4 targets fairly quick in one pass... with the help of Tpod. It's a bit more hassle without it but it'd doable. With LMAVs you would need some outside help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarTzi Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Ok so I guess its LMAV is superior to the IR MAVS then. Is there any point in using the IR MAVS when using TGP? The target must be illuminated by the laser until impact. If you use a MAVF that's not a limitation (you can turn around after shooting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Ok so I guess its LMAV is superior to the IR MAVS then. Is there any point in using the IR MAVS when using TGP? The IR mav is a fire and forget weapon. you can fire them off in succession against various seperate targets, and break off. The missile guides itself. In turn the Lmav requires you to keep TGP on a target and continually lase it until impact. since there is no auto lasing yet this means extra effort on the pilot keeping the finger on the trigger, accidentlally slip up whilst maneuvering or for some reason or another and thats a wasted maverick Thus the Lmav isn't superior, but a side grade a different method of employment. Both IR and Lmav have thier uses depending on needs and situation. Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Mac= Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 The IR mav is a fire and forget weapon. you can fire them off in succession against various seperate targets, and break off. The missile guides itself. In turn the Lmav requires you to keep TGP on a target and continually lase it until impact. since there is no auto lasing yet this means extra effort on the pilot keeping the finger on the trigger, accidentlally slip up whilst maneuvering or for some reason or another and thats a wasted maverick Thus the Lmav isn't superior, but a side grade a different method of employment. Both IR and Lmav have thier uses depending on needs and situation. Doesn't Latch work? That leaves the laser on once you trigger it. (Or was that the Warthog?) The Hornet is best at killing things on the ground. Now, if we could just get a GAU-8 in the nose next to the AN/APG-65, a titanium tub around the pilot, and a couple of J-58 engines in the tail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 With the LMAV you can buddy lase either from air or ground units. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcwaynard Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Ok so I guess its LMAV is superior to the IR MAVS then. Is there any point in using the IR MAVS when using TGP?Yes if you are dexterous you can launch 4 IR mavs on 4 different targets within 5-10 seconds and then crank off target. You can only guide one Lmav at a time and need to egress within specific parameters to keep the target within gimbal limits while at the same time evading. IR is great for quick strikes on groups of armored targets while LMAV is perfect for pinpoint strikes on specific targets. Sent from my SM-A530W using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Amd Fx 8350 4.3 GHz - MSi Gtx 1060 6gb - 16gb DDR3 A-10C - AV8B - F-5E - Mig-21 - FC3 - CA - UH-1H - Black Shark - AJ3-37 - M-2000C - F-16C Viper - F-86F - Spitfire - Fw-190 - F/A-18C - F-14 - Normandy - NTTR - Persian Gulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electro_monkey Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 this means extra effort on the pilot keeping the finger on the trigger, i5-9600K / RTX 2060 / 32 GB DDR4-3200 CL16 / Win10 x64 / Cobra M5 (BRD)+ Gametrix ECS / Opentrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) - You don't say? TRIG /=/ autolase. Even wag's said as much in his tutorial videos for the time being the option you have for the hornet is to manually lase target via trigger pull and holding it down. Auto lasing has yet to be implemented. This has been discussed before on the forums https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4007115&postcount=7 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4007115#post4007115 Even so that still wouldn't make the LMAV an outright superior option to IR mavs, based on the prior responses for reasons already discussed. Edited March 1, 2020 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 ED still has to work out few kinks with IR MAV's slaved to Tpod. In some tests I did, I had the Hornet's nose pointing at the column of 4 tanks from 12k ft. and within 15nm (flying very slow). I could lock any of the tanks with Tpod quickly and pressing TDC to designate worked fine but the Mavs (previously uncaged) were a little "jumpy". 1 or 2 Mavs would slave to Tpod's designated target, 3 and 4 would not be persuaded that easy. Perhaps there are some other factors involved that I'm not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge55 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Perhaps it will work better once they implement boresighting of the TGP to the Maverick pylons. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 You don't say? TRIG /=/ autolase. Even wag's said as much in his tutorial videos for the time being the option you have for the hornet is to manually lase target via trigger pull and holding it down. Auto lasing has yet to be implemented. It was long time ago updated that you squeeze the trigger once and it starts lazing. No requirement to hold it down. What comes to autolase is completely different thing as then your laser would start firing when you release the bomb, without you squeezing trigger. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow KT Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 LMAVs are best used with troops on the ground lazing for you 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electro_monkey Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 You don't say? TRIG /=/ autolase. Even wag's said as much in his tutorial videos for the time being the option you have for the hornet is to manually lase target via trigger pull and holding it down. Auto lasing has yet to be implemented. Autolase doesn't make any sense in case of using laser mavs, as you have to lase the target all the time. Holding the trigger is not necessary if "TRIG" is enabled. i5-9600K / RTX 2060 / 32 GB DDR4-3200 CL16 / Win10 x64 / Cobra M5 (BRD)+ Gametrix ECS / Opentrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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