TGP Undesignate

[Shadow KT]

I have a question. Should the TGP return to boresight, after you have WPDSG-ted it to a WP and the undesignated ? It seems counter productive.

 

What if you are target is not directly on the WP ? How are you going to designate two TOO, if you cannot undesignate ? Well you can, but then you have to guess where the TGP is looking and manually find your target... good luck with that.

 

How come it doesn't return to boresight, when you have manually slewed it somewhere and then designated and undesignated ? There is a dedicated CAGE function, why would this do absolutely the same ?

[silverdevil]

it should not return to boresight. even if the WPDSG is used i get to general area and maybe have to slew down a few thousand feet. to reset i always undesginate and cage. sort of reboot.

[Pike]

I have a question. Should the TGP return to boresight, after you have WPDSG-ted it to a WP and the undesignated ? It seems counter productive.

 

What if you are target is not directly on the WP ? How are you going to designate two TOO, if you cannot undesignate ? Well you can, but then you have to guess where the TGP is looking and manually find your target... good luck with that.

 

How come it doesn't return to boresight, when you have manually slewed it somewhere and then designated and undesignated ? There is a dedicated CAGE function, why would this do absolutely the same ?

 

 

Yes, when you undesignate it ditches that coordinate referemce from the tpod, so it doesnt know where to look. Couldnt tell you if thats a bug or intended, though. Seems, right.

 

 

You dont have to undesignate to program multiple TOOs. Undesignate is the final step, after you have programmed all coordinated. Its just important to not revisit any programmed target prior to undesignating.

[LTRMcrew]

Also, if I remember correctly, even thought the tpod looks at the waypoint you can still move it from there to find the target. But it's certainly handy for getting you in the right spot to start your search.

[Shadow KT]

Yes, you can manually steer it after WPDSGN and give new designations, but then undesignate has the same function as caging it... which makes no sense, why would it be that way ....

 

If you manually slew the TGP to somewhere, designate and then undesignate.... TPOD doesn't cage, it keeps looking at where you were looking, which does make sense

 

Why would it act in to completely different manners ?

[Bankler]

Yes, you can manually steer it after WPDSGN and give new designations, but then undesignate has the same function as caging it... which makes no sense, why would it be that way ....

 

If you manually slew the TGP to somewhere, designate and then undesignate.... TPOD doesn't cage, it keeps looking at where you were looking, which does make sense

 

Why would it act in to completely different manners ?

 

Agreed. It sounds very strange indeed. Would be great if ED could verify if this is a bug or just weird but intended behavior.

 

One thing to notice though: Undesignate and uncage don't do exactly the same thing (but almost). If you designate something, then press undesignate, it moves to one area in front of the aircraft (it seems to be 10 degrees below the horizon, regardless of current pitch?). If you press cage, it boresights.

 

To be honest, I'm quite confused that you are still in WPDSG mode even after having designated something with the Tpod. I assumed designating with the pod would mean you no longer have the wp designated (however TGT is indeed still boxed, so I'm obviously wrong). Maybe there is some offset functionality hiding here? But if that's the case, shouldn't we also have some kind of cursor-zero function to back to the waypoint. In the current implementation, you need to undesignate and then press WPDSG again.

[Talvid]

Okay, then how do I boresight the TPOD when I need to?

[Swift.]

Okay, then how do I boresight the TPOD when I need to?

 

Cage/uncage button

[Talvid]

Cage/uncage button

Thanks, I was trying to lase in a night op, and it took forever to slew it across a whole valley. This will help.

 

Do you have to be expert to be in a vFG?

Edited May 1, 2020 by Thalvid

[=Panther=]

 

Do you have to be expert to be in a vFG?

No, just know how to get gas from the tanker, and land in IMC (at least with the 476th vFG where Swift and I fly). The rest will come through flying with others.

[Talvid]

No, just know how to get gas from the tanker, and land in IMC (at least with the 476th vFG where Swift and I fly). The rest will come through flying with others.

What's that IMC? Inclement Meteorological Conditions?

[Swift.]

IMC = Instrument Meteorological Conditions

[Talvid]

Are there training servers for that?

[VirusAM]

Are there training servers for that?

 

 

 

Have a look at hoggit training server.

On their discord and reddit you will get all the help you can

[Bones1775]

here is ED's answer and unfortunate it is. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=269486

[Shadow KT]

bruh....

[Greyman]

here is ED's answer and unfortunate it is. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=269486

 

Where is there an ED answer in that thread?

[Swift.]

Where is there an ED answer in that thread?

 

The title gets edited by the mods, it now says [correct as is]

[jetmanjeff]

My TPOD in the F18 seems to cage facing backwards. Isn't it supposed to cage to the boresight view? everytime I try and recage, it ends up facing backward

Ideas?

[Santi871]

My TPOD in the F18 seems to cage facing backwards. Isn't it supposed to cage to the boresight view? everytime I try and recage, it ends up facing backward

Ideas?

 

cage/uncage is supposed to toggle LST mode, not boresight the pod, it'll be corrected

[Top Jockey]

My TPOD in the F18 seems to cage facing backwards. Isn't it supposed to cage to the boresight view? everytime I try and recage, it ends up facing backward

Ideas?

 

Shouldn't it re-cage to boresight view pressing the " VVSLV " option, on the FLIR page at the right DDI ?

 

Because with some of the late patches, the uncage command does other function: stow the TGP.

 

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(VVSLV function, is only available without waypoint designated and without target designated.)

Edited May 29, 2020 by Top Jockey

[Peter22]

Shouldn't it re-cage to boresight view pressing the " VVSLV " option, on the FLIR page at the right DDI ?

 

Because with some of the late patches, the uncage command does other function: stow the TGP.

 

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(VVSLV function, is only available without waypoint designated and without target designated.)

It works for me !!!! when no using atrk or ptrk just the NWSS after using atrk or ptrk use VVSLV ..it works with jdams/mav/GUB/AGM154...:thumbup:

[SirJ]

My TGP turns to 6 o'clock position when applying the FOV button - any idea why?

[Bunny Clark]

My TGP turns to 6 o'clock position when applying the FOV button - any idea why?

Are you pressing the FOV button or the Cage button?